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Started by Barrister, November 03, 2020, 01:17:04 PM

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The Brain

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The Larch

Maybe they want to discuss amongst them who would have been publicly executed had the militias succeeded in taking over the state capitol.

QuoteDisturbing new details in alleged plot to kidnap Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer

CHICAGO (WLS) -- There is new and disturbing information in the alleged militia plot against the governor of Michigan.

The 14 men charged had far more violent plans than just a kidnapping, according to federal and state authorities.

New filings claim there was a Plan B the militiamen had drawn up, that involved a takeover of the Michigan capitol building by 200 combatants who would stage a week-long series of televised executions of public officials.

And, according to government documents now on file in lower Michigan court, there was also a Plan C -- burning down the state house, leaving no survivors.


In southern Wisconsin Wednesday afternoon the 14th man charged in the plot, Brian Higgins, was closer to extradition to Michigan, even as prosecutors there piled on new, even more outrageous accusations against the men.

Higgins appeared from his home for the video court hearing.

"My client is going to leave this house when this hearing concludes. And unless you tell him otherwise, he's going to go straight to the sheriff's department and turn himself in," said Higgins attorney, Christopher Van Wagner.

The latest accusations include the charged threat that Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer was to be kidnapped and possibly killed; now government court records cite subplots to stage an armed takeover of the state capitol in Lansing and televise the executions of politicians.

In an interview with the ABC 7 Chicago I-Team last week, Michigan's attorney general, who's prosecuting some of the militiamen, discussed the domestic terror threat.

"We are one of the few states that does not ban guns in our state capitol building, and clearly there have been threats made on the lives of our legislators; you probably saw the pictures back from in April, where we had armed gunman, some of them, same defendants in this case, that were hovering over state senators with long guns, screaming and yelling at them as they were deliberating, as they were discussing legislation and as they were voting, so that remains a big concern to me in a very scary scenario," said Dana Nessel.

That fear bleeds over to Illinois. Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker mentioned the Michigan case during Tuesday's COVID-19 update.

"We have threats that stream into my office daily, while we have watched the kidnapping plot against the Michigan governor unfold just a state away," said Pritzker.

Despite the violent nature of the charges, including an alleged plan to hold a mock treason trial for the governor of Michigan once she was kidnapped, several of the defendants have had bond reductions and are now free.

Higgins' attorney suggested in court that he may challenge extradition altogether at Thursday's bond hearing in Wisconsin.

The Minsky Moment

Quote from: grumbler on November 18, 2020, 11:05:23 PM
So what do you think of this hypothesis:  Rudy is just humoring Trump and taking one for the team, because the longer he talks about how the Steiner Case is going to save Trump, the longer Trump puts off issuing his Nero Decree.  My hypothesis says that Giuliani doesn't want to win, he just wants to delay Trump's despair and thus limit the damage.

it's possible but I think Rudy's far gone.  He's ODed on his own BS supply.
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

The Brain

He's heading for Venus (Venus).
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The Minsky Moment

The Senate Majority Leader in Michigan already went on record saying the legislature would not try to bypass the election results.

Now the the Battle of the Wayne County Canvassers ended with a quick retreat of the would-be coup plotters, it looks like Michigan will certify its results.  Once the vote is certified it is game over. Under the Count Act Congress must accept certified results signed by the governor and under the Constitution the legislature cant change the method of selection after the election has been held.
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

DGuller

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on November 19, 2020, 12:52:17 PM
The Senate Majority Leader in Michigan already went on record saying the legislature would not try to bypass the election results.
That's a huge relief to hear in a democratic society.  I hope someone will also go on record to affirm that summary executions are off the table.


Valmy

I guess you don't need the Bolsheviks or the Soviet Union to have a Red Scare.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

The Brain

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Syt

Quote from: Sheilbh on November 19, 2020, 02:18:59 PM
This clip:
https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1329486814558752769?s=20
:blink:

I'm sure senior Republican politicians and office holders will denounce this charade any time soon. :)
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Syt

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1329493386999586817?s=20

Quote"Your question is fundamentally flawed, when you're asking, 'where's the evidence?' You clearly don't understand the legal process" -- Jenna Ellis
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

Syt

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1329495470159392769?s=20

"The censorship that's going on in this country right now by big tech and by big media is almost as dangerous as the election fraud that we're revealing. Maybe just as dangerous. We're headed to a very bad place. And it is not inappropriate that a Venezuelan company counted our votes." - Rudy Giuliani
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

Valmy

Quote from: Syt on November 19, 2020, 02:35:44 PM
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1329495470159392769?s=20

"The censorship that's going on in this country right now by big tech and by big media is almost as dangerous as the election fraud that we're revealing. Maybe just as dangerous. We're headed to a very bad place. And it is not inappropriate that a Venezuelan company counted our votes." - Rudy Giuliani

A Venezuelan company? I thought we had vote counters hired by the counties to do that.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

The Brain

Rudy's Soros-bashing seemed a bit low-energy. Surely he can shout more and use more arm gestures?
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Razgovory

This really isn't buttressing my faith in America.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017