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[grumbler]

People who say it's not ok to punch Nazis: Do you think it's ok to fight against Islamist terrorists?

No one claims that, and the comparison is absurd.  If you think that you can punch Nazis, do you think it's okay to punch anyone whose political views you vehemently disagree with?  Or is the term "Nazi" so magical in your mind that it negates freedom of speech (not that any of these people actually are Nazis, of course)?

[Valmy]

I am as much in favor of fighting against Nazi terrorists as I am against Islamist terrorists.

But that does not mean I am going to go up to every extremist Islamist preacher I can find and punch him in the face, any more than I am going to punch every dork doing a heil Hitler salute.

[Tonitrus]

I will just say, that if I were in were in house-to-house combat in Normandy 1944...I might punch a Nazi.

[Sheilbh]

I will just say, that if I were in were in house-to-house combat in Normandy 1944...I might punch a Nazi.

I feel like Battle of Cable Street is also okay to punch a Nazi.

I should be clear I would never punch a Nazi but that's because I'm weak and have never been in a fight more than any overwhelming principle

[merithyn]

I think the one situation where punching is acceptable is if you're Buzz Aldrin and the other guy is a moon landings hoaxer harassing you.

Sorry, slippery slope.  Next it's punching QAnon idiots....then birthers.  The next thing you know, 40% of the American populace will deserve to be punched.

Wadda ya mean, "next thing?"  40% of the American populace are moon landing hoaxers harassing Buzz Aldrin.  Haven't you been reading Meri's posts about how the US sucks, etc?

Yeah, well, when 40% of the country thinks that Trump is A-okay, that's a problem. I hate that so many in my country accepts his style of governing as perfectly fine and worth having for another four years. I hate that so many in my country have no issue with what he's doing to democracy here.

If that offends you, sorry not sorry.

[Tonitrus]

I though he might have been confusing you with CC.

[merithyn]

I though he might have been confusing you with CC.

Nah. I regularly say that the US sucks, because it does right now. *shrugs*

This election shouldn't even be a contest. Biden should be up by 50% of the voters. He's not, and that makes me angry. It makes me embarrassed for my country. And yeah, it means that to me, right now, my country fucking sucks.

I'm okay with owning that.

[Valmy]

It sort of makes me realize that all the internet jerks telling me how shitty the US is might not have been wrong. 

Thanks America.

[grumbler]

Yeah, well, when 40% of the country thinks that Trump is A-okay, that's a problem. I hate that so many in my country accepts his style of governing as perfectly fine and worth having for another four years. I hate that so many in my country have no issue with what he's doing to democracy here.

If that offends you, sorry not sorry.

Hyperbole has never been convincing.  It doesn't offend me, it amuses me.  You and Zoupa are a couple of stuck records, wallowing in the emo.

[grumbler]

It sort of makes me realize that all the internet jerks telling me how shitty the US is might not have been wrong. 

Thanks America.

There are some shitty things happening in the US, but to argue that the country as a whole is shitty is infantile.  Infants think that the only thing that exists is the thing they are concentrating on at any given moment.   The "shitty America" people are the same: if what they are focused on this second is shitty (like a poll), then the whole country is shitty.

Cry me a river.

[Razgovory]

It is a little annoying that some of our friends enjoy kicking dirt in our faces while we are down.

[Admiral Yi]

People who say it's not ok to punch Nazis: Do you think it's ok to fight against Islamist terrorists?

Of course. 

[merithyn]

Yeah, well, when 40% of the country thinks that Trump is A-okay, that's a problem. I hate that so many in my country accepts his style of governing as perfectly fine and worth having for another four years. I hate that so many in my country have no issue with what he's doing to democracy here.

If that offends you, sorry not sorry.

Hyperbole has never been convincing.  It doesn't offend me, it amuses me.  You and Zoupa are a couple of stuck records, wallowing in the emo.

Okay, grumbler

[Valmy]

It sort of makes me realize that all the internet jerks telling me how shitty the US is might not have been wrong. 

Thanks America.

There are some shitty things happening in the US, but to argue that the country as a whole is shitty is infantile.  Infants think that the only thing that exists is the thing they are concentrating on at any given moment.   The "shitty America" people are the same: if what they are focused on this second is shitty (like a poll), then the whole country is shitty.

Cry me a river.

Saying some claims might not be as wrong as I thought, based on recent evidence, is not even remotely close to how you are characterizing what I am saying.

I am not saying the whole country is shitty. I don't think that. I was simply saying that a lot of the horrible things I have heard about my country seem to be bearing themselves out and I find that depressing. And those polls have, and will be, born out in election results and political policies and cultural issues. They are hardly some outlier by some random poll.

Also I am upset because I do love my country and its people, but you seem to be attacking me for hating it? Very odd. If I really thought America was shitty I would not find what is going on very upsetting, it would fit my preconcieved notions.

But hey you say I am wrong and I hope you are right. May events bear your perspective out and not my concerns.

[Zoupa]

It is a little annoying that some of our friends enjoy kicking dirt in our faces while we are down.

No one's enjoying this, trust me.