JK Rowling reveals she is survivor of domestic abuse and sexual assault

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Razgovory

Quote from: Zoupa on August 16, 2020, 02:09:18 AM
Quote from: DGuller on August 15, 2020, 11:32:14 PM
Maybe Zoupa wasn't threatening violence, but he sure was condoning it.  It definitely wasn't the best argument to make if whitewashing "consequences" was the goal.

I will condone violence against nazis every day of the week. Didn't we fight a war about his, and killed a bunch of them? How is this controversial?


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Habbaku

Quote from: chipwich on August 15, 2020, 12:50:55 AM
They will be able to legally murder their enemies, at least with US self-defense laws.. A good bloodbath might give the left some pause in glorifying violence as you do. Consequences of your actions and all that.

Yeah, this looks like a really strong stand against violence.
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The Brain

Quote from: Zoupa on August 16, 2020, 02:09:18 AM
Quote from: DGuller on August 15, 2020, 11:32:14 PM
Maybe Zoupa wasn't threatening violence, but he sure was condoning it.  It definitely wasn't the best argument to make if whitewashing "consequences" was the goal.

I will condone violence against nazis every day of the week. Didn't we fight a war about his, and killed a bunch of them? How is this controversial?

There are so many things wrong with this. Do you actually think this way?
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The Brain

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chipwich

Quote from: The Brain on August 16, 2020, 09:13:55 AM
Quote from: Zoupa on August 16, 2020, 02:09:18 AM
Quote from: DGuller on August 15, 2020, 11:32:14 PM
Maybe Zoupa wasn't threatening violence, but he sure was condoning it.  It definitely wasn't the best argument to make if whitewashing "consequences" was the goal.

I will condone violence against nazis every day of the week. Didn't we fight a war about his, and killed a bunch of them? How is this controversial?

There are so many things wrong with this. Do you actually think this way?

YOU ALT-RIGHT MONSTER

Maximus

Quote from: The Brain on August 16, 2020, 09:46:40 AM
Quote from: Maximus on August 16, 2020, 09:44:40 AM
Quote from: The Brain on August 16, 2020, 09:13:55 AM
There are so many things wrong with this.
Such as?

Are you kidding me?
I don't think Zoupa said that.

If there are "so many things wrong" with what he said, surely you can name at least one.

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Zoupa

Quote from: The Brain on August 16, 2020, 09:13:55 AM
Quote from: Zoupa on August 16, 2020, 02:09:18 AM
Quote from: DGuller on August 15, 2020, 11:32:14 PM
Maybe Zoupa wasn't threatening violence, but he sure was condoning it.  It definitely wasn't the best argument to make if whitewashing "consequences" was the goal.

I will condone violence against nazis every day of the week. Didn't we fight a war about his, and killed a bunch of them? How is this controversial?

There are so many things wrong with this. Do you actually think this way?

Ah, I forgot you're Swedish.

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The Minsky Moment

Quote from: chipwich on August 16, 2020, 02:44:28 AM
And here comes a train of people saying that standing up to violence makes you an alt-righter.

What would identify someone as an alt-righter is not standing up to violence, but rather setting forth a revenge fantasy of retaliatory violence.

Something like

QuoteNeo-nazis should really start to concealed carry at these rallies . . .They will be able to legally murder their enemies, at least with US self-defense laws.. A good bloodbath might give the left some pause in glorifying violence as you do. Consequences of your actions and all that.
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The Brain

Quote from: Maximus on August 16, 2020, 10:24:48 AM
Quote from: The Brain on August 16, 2020, 09:46:40 AM
Quote from: Maximus on August 16, 2020, 09:44:40 AM
Quote from: The Brain on August 16, 2020, 09:13:55 AM
There are so many things wrong with this.
Such as?

Are you kidding me?
I don't think Zoupa said that.

If there are "so many things wrong" with what he said, surely you can name at least one.

Violence against political opponents is antidemocratic and incompatible with an open society. WW2 wasn't fought about the right of people in Western democracies to use violence against political opponents.
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Admiral Yi

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on August 16, 2020, 11:55:18 AM
What would identify someone as an alt-righter is not standing up to violence, but rather setting forth a revenge fantasy of retaliatory violence.

If the objective principle that differentiates "standing up to violence" and "revenge fantasies of retaliatory violence" is proportionality, that by itself shouldn't be enough to identify someone as alt-right.

Valmy

Quote from: chipwich on August 16, 2020, 09:52:12 AM
Quote from: The Brain on August 16, 2020, 09:13:55 AM
Quote from: Zoupa on August 16, 2020, 02:09:18 AM
Quote from: DGuller on August 15, 2020, 11:32:14 PM
Maybe Zoupa wasn't threatening violence, but he sure was condoning it.  It definitely wasn't the best argument to make if whitewashing "consequences" was the goal.

I will condone violence against nazis every day of the week. Didn't we fight a war about his, and killed a bunch of them? How is this controversial?

There are so many things wrong with this. Do you actually think this way?

YOU ALT-RIGHT MONSTER

What The Brain said is not even in the same universe with the stupid shit you were saying. Don't dishonestly try to equivocate.
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