Lessons From History For Us Regarding The Coronavirus.

Started by mongers, April 10, 2020, 12:22:19 PM

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mongers

April 10, 2020, 12:22:19 PM
What lessons, if any can be drawn from history to inform how we deal with the Cornavirus pandemic and it's aftermath?


I don't feel qualified to contribute to the thread, but I will say the grim footage out of New York of the temporary mass burial for unclaimed victims, reminded me of the plague pits now under a car-park 300 yards from here.

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The Brain

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April 10, 2020, 12:31:59 PM
Self-flagellation doesn't work. Not for me anyway.
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MadImmortalMan

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April 10, 2020, 12:40:53 PM
What lessons can be drawn or which ones will be?

I think we'll "learn" all the wrong things, sadly.
"Stability is destabilizing." --Hyman Minsky

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Josquius

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April 10, 2020, 02:51:12 PM
Already mentioned it a lot, but the winter of 46/47. Same kind of sudden economic shutdown albeit for other reasons.
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PDH

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April 10, 2020, 03:13:16 PM
We will learn that we must forget any lessons about the past, and instead continue to devalue human life over profit.
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grumbler

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April 10, 2020, 04:22:04 PM
Yet now you fill the skies where we watched a million sunsets with flame and contrails, paying no heed to the hard lessons the universe has tried to teach you. Are you a breath of life to invigorate a complacent world, covid-19, or an insidious cancer which must be excised?
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MadImmortalMan

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April 10, 2020, 04:48:05 PM
It is every citizen's final duty to go into the tanks, and become one with all the people.

"Stability is destabilizing." --Hyman Minsky

"Complacency can be a self-denying prophecy."
"We have nothing to fear but lack of fear itself." --Larry Summers

mongers

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April 10, 2020, 05:05:48 PM
Quote from: PDH on April 10, 2020, 03:13:16 PM
We will learn that we must forget any lessons about the past, and instead continue to devalue human life over profit.

It's the only way too profit.  :)
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Monoriu

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April 10, 2020, 05:27:45 PM
The 2003 SARS lessons aren't very useful for the Coronavirus because the characteristics are different.  Coronavirus is much more contagious for example. 

mongers

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April 10, 2020, 05:38:56 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on April 10, 2020, 05:27:45 PM
The 2003 SARS lessons aren't very useful for the Coronavirus because the characteristics are different. Coronavirus is much more contagious for example.

Well in the very short term, that's one lesson much of W.Europe hasn't learnt from E.Asia.
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Monoriu

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April 10, 2020, 05:57:38 PM
Quote from: mongers on April 10, 2020, 05:38:56 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on April 10, 2020, 05:27:45 PM
The 2003 SARS lessons aren't very useful for the Coronavirus because the characteristics are different. Coronavirus is much more contagious for example.

Well in the very short term, that's one lesson much of W.Europe hasn't learnt from E.Asia.

That sounds wrong on so many levels  :lol:  The general assumption is that Western Europe is superior to East Asia.  We want to learn from you, not the other way round  ;)

Eddie Teach

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April 10, 2020, 06:10:08 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on April 10, 2020, 05:57:38 PM
Quote from: mongers on April 10, 2020, 05:38:56 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on April 10, 2020, 05:27:45 PM
The 2003 SARS lessons aren't very useful for the Coronavirus because the characteristics are different. Coronavirus is much more contagious for example.

Well in the very short term, that's one lesson much of W.Europe hasn't learnt from E.Asia.

That sounds wrong on so many levels  :lol:  The general assumption is that Western Europe is superior to East Asia.  We want to learn from you, not the other way round  ;)

Yeah, I don't buy it. You're the Middle Kingdom and we are mere gwai-lo.
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MadImmortalMan

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April 10, 2020, 06:13:25 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on April 10, 2020, 05:57:38 PM

That sounds wrong on so many levels  :lol:  The general assumption is that Western Europe is superior to East Asia.  We want to learn from you, not the other way round  ;)

The current fad is to fetishize authoritarianism in the face of crisis. It does make sense in that context.
"Stability is destabilizing." --Hyman Minsky

"Complacency can be a self-denying prophecy."
"We have nothing to fear but lack of fear itself." --Larry Summers

Syt

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April 11, 2020, 12:23:57 AM
We'll probably learn about as much as from the 2008 crash. Boy, did that teach everyone a lesson! :)
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April 11, 2020, 12:45:18 AM
Quote from: Syt on April 11, 2020, 12:23:57 AM
We'll probably learn about as much as from the 2008 crash. Boy, did that teach everyone a lesson! :)

Couldn't agree more!  Not a single sub-prime crash since then! :yes:
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