Star Trek Picard and Strange New Worlds

[crazy canuck]

Terrible, nonsensical and contradictory ending

[Tonitrus]

Hmm, yeah...I may have lost count of the deus ex machina's. 

[Barrister]

I know you should expect spoilers in this thread, but just to be doubly safe...

[spoiler]Yeah, so what's the point of killing Picard, but bringing his character back as an android with all of Picard's memories?

I mean, I guess that might be a big part of the storyline for season 2, but it otherwise felt really cheap.  They give Stewart a big tragic death scene, but then reverse it moments later.
[/spoiler]

[Valmy]

My wife started watching the show but eventually was just "screw this I would rather just watch the original TNG" which she has been doing. Probably not a good sign since she is such a TNG fan.

[viper37]

Terrible, nonsensical and contradictory ending

yes.

[Josquius]

Interesting vulcans aren't from vulcan ending.

But the whole fleet showing up just like that... Doesn't really make sense. Very Abrams movies style.

Tis very thoroughly meh. I place it in competition with TOS for worst trek.

[Richard Hakluyt]

It was shit. Despite having Patrick Stewart in it.

[Barrister]

I place it in competition with TOS for worst trek.

I, sir, demand satisfaction for this outrageous remark!

[Tonitrus]

Especially with Voyager out there.

[Barrister]

Especially with Voyager out there.

Enterprise.  Though not a huge Voyager fan.

[Tonitrus]

I cannot judge Enterprise, as I stopped watching it part way into the first season, and never found any motivation to come back to it. 

[Tonitrus]

Overall, for the season as a whole, I thought it started strong...dragged a bit, then ended in a thud.

At least, I suppose, they wrapped the plot up and didn't go the cliffhanger route...but what are they supposed to be doing for S2-3? [spoiler] Robo-Picard as Hannibal of the 24th-century A-Team?[/spoiler]

[HVC]

Especially with Voyager out there.

Enterprise.  Though not a huge Voyager fan.

At least enterprise gets better.

[Barrister]

Especially with Voyager out there.

Enterprise.  Though not a huge Voyager fan.

At least enterprise gets better.

I could never really get into Enterprise, even when I've tried on streaming.  Voyager started good, though I checked out before the end.

What impresses me is no one is suggesting Discovery is the worst.  I still quite liked it.

[Josquius]

Though with time voyager has dropped from my favourite trek I still maintain it was good and I really don't get the hate.

TOS is basically just an American Dr Who. Wacky adventure of the week in a radically inconsistent make it up as you go along universe.
I respect it for what it is and it's importance for the development of the genre. But putting aside all that and watching it neutrally... It just isn't the best.



For a while in this last episode of Picard I thought at first they had ran an excellent trick on us with all Stewarts talk of series 2 being misdirection