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Star Trek Picard and Strange New Worlds

Started by Josephus, January 23, 2020, 11:45:55 AM

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MadImmortalMan

Granted, it takes a LONG time to point out everything wrong with this show. Heh.  :P
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Valmy

Quote from: garbon on March 20, 2020, 01:31:58 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyGGW3tqNPY

RLM guys explain it better than I could.

Do I want to spend over and hour listening to some jackasses? Probs not.

Yet you spend hours posting with us :hug:

I enjoy RLM but yeah they can make ridiculously long video essays about silly cultural things.
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Habbaku

That's literally the reason they exist--to make video essays about silly cultural things. If you're not into it, you're not into it, but criticizing the mere existence is a bit weird.
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Valmy

Quote from: Habbaku on March 20, 2020, 03:32:59 PM
That's literally the reason they exist--to make video essays about silly cultural things. If you're not into it, you're not into it, but criticizing the mere existence is a bit weird.

Oh I am into it :blush:

But I get how most normal people don't have time for that :lol:
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Tonitrus

Up until this last episode, I've been enjoying the series. 

Now I think it's kinda bad.

[spoiler]Unkown Soong's son, who is essentially just like his dad on a planet of yogie-Datas?  Ugh.[/spoiler]

viper37

Quote from: Tonitrus on March 20, 2020, 05:05:22 PM
Up until this last episode, I've been enjoying the series. 

Now I think it's kinda bad.

[spoiler]Unkown Soong's son, who is essentially just like his dad on a planet of yogie-Datas?  Ugh.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]
For some reason, all Soong look alike.  Remember Entrerprise.  Maybe they are all clones.  ;) [/spoiler]
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celedhring

Yeah, it pains me to say it but this show isn't too good. I had big hopes for new Trek in this golden age of serialized TV, but so far it hasn't delivered.

garbon

Is the Soong thing really that problematic?
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celedhring

Quote from: garbon on March 22, 2020, 05:36:23 AM
Is the Soong thing really that problematic?

Nah, I'm not that much of a geek to care for those things. I just think there's way too much fan service and the story hasn't been interesting. Take out the fact it is Star Trek and the show doesn't have much on its own.

garbon

Quote from: celedhring on March 22, 2020, 05:40:11 AM
Quote from: garbon on March 22, 2020, 05:36:23 AM
Is the Soong thing really that problematic?

Nah, I'm not that much of a geek to care for those things. I just think there's way too much fan service and the story hasn't been interesting. Take out the fact it is Star Trek and the show doesn't have much on its own.

Fair. I mean it is a rather simple story that has been expanded over quite a fair amount of episodes.
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Josephus

I agree that's fair comment. I mean, if it wasn't appealing to the fan base, the whole episode at Riker's house was pointless, and it is a simple story. But still enjoyable for us old Trekkers.
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Josephus

Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 22, 2020, 02:53:23 PM
Knight Commander of the Illustrious Nerd Order awarded to Jo Jo for calling himself a Trekker and not a Trekky.

:)
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Josquius

Quote from: Josephus on March 22, 2020, 08:31:15 AM
I agree that's fair comment. I mean, if it wasn't appealing to the fan base, the whole episode at Riker's house was pointless, and it is a simple story. But still enjoyable for us old Trekkers.

Like most such appearances there are moments of "Oh it's him! I wonder if they'll be there too....? There they are! Swee!" but this doesn't last long.
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viper37

Quote from: celedhring on March 22, 2020, 03:14:38 AM
Yeah, it pains me to say it but this show isn't too good. I had big hopes for new Trek in this golden age of serialized TV, but so far it hasn't delivered.

It's Mass Effect in the Star Trek universe
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