Coronavirus Sars-CoV-2/Covid-19 Megathread

[Sheilbh]

New York is two weeks behind London, with a potential apex of 21 days from today. Don't get too excited if the hospitals are fine come Monday.

That being said, I'm listening to Andrew Cuomo on CNN right now, and I think I love him. He has numbers, dates, times, plans. He's the leader we need. He even got a good jab in there about the orange turnip, saying that he is making decisions based on facts and numbers not on a "gut feeling".

From what I've read on London this weekend is critical because the new NHS Nightingale is going live I think early next week with 500 new critical care beds. It will eventually ramp up to 4,000 beds. But at the moment London is heading close to capacity. From what I've seen if we can get to this emergency hospital going live we'll be likely to stay within the NHS's "surge capacity". If this weekend goes badly we will probably be overwhelmed then.

Interesting piece in the Health Service Journal on hospitals outside London (and some other hotspots) who are saying they've never been so quiet because we're forcing people out ASAP to free-up capacity, but also the number of people reporting to A&E is down hugely. It must be weird and eerie.

[Fate]

I don't know if you can really 3D print a ventilator. Maybe some ancillary parts like tubing. But it'd be like 3D printing a car. This is a $30,000 piece of technology which a high amount of precision required. If your machine breaks or has a bug, the patient stops getting oxygen to their brain and dies. Masks, faceshields, etc. are all amenable to this technology but the throughput pales when compared to the Chinese factories.

[Legbiter]

New York is two weeks behind London, with a potential apex of 21 days from today. Don't get too excited if the hospitals are fine come Monday.

That being said, I'm listening to Andrew Cuomo on CNN right now, and I think I love him. He has numbers, dates, times, plans. He's the leader we need

London should have been totally hammered by now. Their 2 week grace period was up 6-7 days ago compared to Italy. That's why the weekend will be crucial. New York is a major hub with the same international links so pay attention what happens there. And I agree the local municipal government has never been more important.

[merithyn]

This may not just be about you

Give it up, cc. He's been told that repeatedly, and still, here we are.

[Josquius]

I guess the hospitals will get a big boost this weekend without the usual drunkards.

[celedhring]

I don't know if you can really 3D print a ventilator. Maybe some ancillary parts like tubing. But it'd be like 3D printing a car. This is a $30,000 piece of technology which a high amount of precision required. If your machine breaks or has a bug, the patient stops getting oxygen to their brain and dies.

No idea how they do it. I know it's been certified by local hospitals.

This is the thing:

[Sheilbh]

Chief Medical Officer also tested positive with mild symptoms and working from home.

[The Larch]

I don't know if you can really 3D print a ventilator. Maybe some ancillary parts like tubing. But it'd be like 3D printing a car. This is a $30,000 piece of technology which a high amount of precision required. If your machine breaks or has a bug, the patient stops getting oxygen to their brain and dies.

No idea how they do it. I know it's been certified by local hospitals.

This is the thing:

Hey, I know one of those organisations involved, we were partners in a big European project many years ago. They're a private technological center located in Barcelona and Tarrasa. I had no idea they had a medical division.

[Sheilbh]

It seems the President has also been thinking about ventilators this morning:

As usual with "this" General Motors, things just never seem to work out. They said they were going to give us 40,000 much needed Ventilators, "very quickly". Now they are saying it will only be 6000, in late April, and they want top dollar. Always a mess with Mary B. Invoke "P".

General Motors MUST immediately open their stupidly abandoned Lordstown plant in Ohio, or some other plant, and START MAKING VENTILATORS, NOW!!!!!!  FORD, GET GOING ON VENTILATORS, FAST!!!!!!  @GeneralMotors @Ford

Invoke "P" means Defense Production Act!

Re-assuring. Glad he explained what "invoke "P"" meant because I was clueless.

[Eddie Teach]

Dude in the back forgot his mask.

[Zanza]

Spain's 3D-printing ventilators like crazy. HP's 3D centre is in Barcelona and they are churning out nearly 100 ventilators a day. Iormlund's company was doing it too, iirc.

Yeah, the market will probably crash after this is over. But I presume a lot of those makeshift ventilators are intended for short term use only.

I don't think that's the same kind of ventilator they are making. You can't really 3D print electronics easily...

[The Minsky Moment]

Trump's national county risk stratification plan seems unworkable so as long as there's a constitutional right to freedom of movement. Any law nerds know if Oklahoma could legally prevent movement of an asympomatic Texan from Dallas County (presumably a hotzone/Trump high risk county) across the Red River? Florida and other states are enforcing 14 day quarantines but aren't actually banning the entry of NY citizens into their state.

No - it's possible a that a states could restrict ALL movement into or out of a county but it can't discriminate based on state citizenship.

[Legbiter]

Re-assuring. Glad he explained what "invoke "P"" meant because I was clueless.

Is it some sort of legislation that was last used to make Ford churn out Shermans in WW II?

[Zanza]

I don't know if you can really 3D print a ventilator. Maybe some ancillary parts like tubing. But it'd be like 3D printing a car. This is a $30,000 piece of technology which a high amount of precision required. If your machine breaks or has a bug, the patient stops getting oxygen to their brain and dies.

No idea how they do it. I know it's been certified by local hospitals.

This is the thing:

Okay, only saw this after I posted. I guess there are different kinds of ventilators and presumably in crisis a simpler version that fulfils the exact purpose only is sufficient to help. No need for a piece of over-engineered equipment that needs specialists to operate.

[celedhring]

Yeah, these makeshift ventilators are just meant to bridge the gap while we expand capacity to meet this crisis. The aim is to treble the number of ICU beds.