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Razgovory

#585
November 26, 2019, 06:48:34 PM
If the Senate does not vote to remove then it's not impeachable.  If it's not impeachable then Congress should start sending letters to Panama, Indonesia, and any other country that Trump has business in.
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DGuller

#586
November 26, 2019, 08:14:24 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 26, 2019, 06:48:34 PM
If the Senate does not vote to remove then it's not impeachable.  If it's not impeachable then Congress should start sending letters to Panama, Indonesia, and any other country that Trump has business in.
You think they'll impeach him?

Razgovory

#587
November 26, 2019, 11:25:08 PM
Quote from: DGuller on November 26, 2019, 08:14:24 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 26, 2019, 06:48:34 PM
If the Senate does not vote to remove then it's not impeachable.  If it's not impeachable then Congress should start sending letters to Panama, Indonesia, and any other country that Trump has business in.
You think they'll impeach him?


Yeah.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

jimmy olsen

#588
November 27, 2019, 01:17:25 AM
Quote from: DGuller on November 26, 2019, 08:14:24 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 26, 2019, 06:48:34 PM
If the Senate does not vote to remove then it's not impeachable.  If it's not impeachable then Congress should start sending letters to Panama, Indonesia, and any other country that Trump has business in.
You think they'll impeach him?
100% the House will vote to impeach.
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Legbiter

#589
November 27, 2019, 10:07:11 AM
Quote from: Sheilbh on November 26, 2019, 04:05:14 PMIncidentally the CNN poll is interesting. It feels like, like everything else with Trump, it's just flatlining on both sides.

Yeah.

Yet another overhyped dud from the Democrats. McConnell can then use the Senate circus to put the Bidens on trial and tie up Bernie, Harris and Warren for months in DC when they should be on the stump.

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grumbler

#590
November 27, 2019, 02:05:59 PM
Quote from: Legbiter on November 27, 2019, 10:07:11 AM
Quote from: Sheilbh on November 26, 2019, 04:05:14 PMIncidentally the CNN poll is interesting. It feels like, like everything else with Trump, it's just flatlining on both sides.

Yeah.

Yet another overhyped dud from the Democrats. McConnell can then use the Senate circus to put the Bidens on trial and tie up Bernie, Harris and Warren for months in DC when they should be on the stump.

Are you having a stroke?
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The Minsky Moment

#591
November 27, 2019, 03:24:19 PM
Why on earth would Mitch schedule "months" for an impeachment trial - that would be insane?

The threat against the Bidens isn't very credible because there is no evidence against them.  What is there to do?

A Senate impeachment trial isn't exactly analogous to a federal criminal trial but the procedures are somewhat similar. You can't just fling shit around like they do on Fox News.
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grumbler

#592
November 27, 2019, 06:37:28 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on November 27, 2019, 03:24:19 PM
Why on earth would Mitch schedule "months" for an impeachment trial - that would be insane?

The threat against the Bidens isn't very credible because there is no evidence against them.  What is there to do?

A Senate impeachment trial isn't exactly analogous to a federal criminal trial but the procedures are somewhat similar. You can't just fling shit around like they do on Fox News.

I don't even know how Moscow Mitch could even "schedule" months of impeachment trial.  The case managers are going to be Democrats from the House, and their case will drive the timeline of the schedule.  Neither would the Democratic case managers have any ability (even had they the desire) to "put the Bidens on trial" since the trial will be over the articles of impeachment, not the fantasy of the Trumpeters.

I think just thinking about the impeachment proceedings is giving Trumpeters strokes, because they can see what is going to happen to their by when administration people start testifying under oath.  This is the true Trump Derangement Syndrome.
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11B4V

#593
November 27, 2019, 07:10:15 PM
He's "The Chosen One".
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viper37

#594
November 28, 2019, 02:12:30 AM
So, Trump has been invited to testify or to question witnesses in the House by the Dems.

I wonder if he'll try to lie under oath?
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Maladict

#595
November 28, 2019, 03:41:02 AM
Quote from: viper37 on November 28, 2019, 02:12:30 AM

I wonder if he'll try to lie under oath?

I wonder when he'll start throwing his own family under the bus to save himself.

DGuller

#597
December 02, 2019, 08:33:52 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 02, 2019, 08:10:58 PM
https://www.npr.org/2019/12/02/784183484/read-republican-report-on-the-impeachment-inquiry

Full text of House Republican impeachment report.
Executive summary?  Do they think Trump did good or bad?

Admiral Yi

#598
December 02, 2019, 08:37:12 PM
Quote from: DGuller on December 02, 2019, 08:33:52 PM
Executive summary?

Kitchen sink.  They seem to be pinning a lot on the fact that Trump didn't explicitly say during Teh Call "if you do this I will release the aid."

Read the executive summary in the link.

The Minsky Moment

#599
December 03, 2019, 01:11:45 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 02, 2019, 08:37:12 PM
Kitchen sink.  They seem to be pinning a lot on the fact that Trump didn't explicitly say during Teh Call "if you do this I will release the aid."

Read the executive summary in the link.

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