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The Impeachment of President Donald J Trump

Started by FunkMonk, September 24, 2019, 02:10:43 PM

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Admiral Yi

#135
September 26, 2019, 01:23:54 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BgNOQJQj28

The brand new DNI gives every indication of being a grown up.

Syt

#136
September 26, 2019, 02:00:09 PM
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

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Caliga

#137
September 26, 2019, 02:09:35 PM
So does that mean MSNBC will never cover Trump speaking again? :hmm:
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FunkMonk

#138
September 26, 2019, 02:44:45 PM
Giuliani in a phone interview today with some journo

Quote"It is impossible that the whistle-blower is a hero and I'm not. And I will be the hero! These morons—when this is over, I will be the hero," he told me.

:lol:
Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

Habbaku

#139
September 26, 2019, 03:05:36 PM
Goddamn. He has really lost it.
The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

Government is an abstract noun meaning the art and process of governing and it should be an offence to write it with a capital G or so as to refer to people.
-J. R. R. Tolkien

Valmy

#140
September 26, 2019, 03:08:56 PM
He is just imitating the speech and style of his master, like any good courtier.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

grumbler

#141
September 26, 2019, 03:17:53 PM
Quote from: Valmy on September 26, 2019, 03:08:56 PM
He is just imitating the speech and style of his master, like any good courtier.

QuoteOur Courtier....will not be a bearer of evil tidings; he will not be thoughtless in sometimes saying things that offend instead of pleasing as he intends. He will not be obstinate and disputatious, as some are who seem to delight in nothing but to be troublesome, and disagreeable like flies, and who make a point of spitefully contradicting everyone.... Let him above all take care not to weary his lord, and let him wait for favors to be offered him rather than angle for them so openly as many do, who are so greedy that it seems as if they must die if they do not get what they seek....
The Courtier by Baldassare Castiglione

Giuliani would never make it as the courtier of a true lord.
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

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Sheilbh

#142
September 26, 2019, 03:25:57 PM
Quote from: Barrister on September 26, 2019, 12:21:25 PM
Quote from: Josephus on September 26, 2019, 12:11:43 PM
Can anyone picture a scenario where, even though he won't get impeached, Trump decides NOT to run in 2020. I'm thinking these past two years have probably been the most stressful in his life, and what, really, is in it for him, from here on in? He was president, he achieved that goal. Why go though all this "persecution" for another four years?

I suspect he is enjoying it, but I can see such a scenario.  Lets say he is trailing in the polls in a big way.  Rather than go down in defeat he decides to resign so he remains undefeated.

Problem with that theory is the moment he resigns he loses his immunity from prosecution.  Maybe Pence pardons him (although the Nixon pardon didn't do Ford any favours), but there's still state prosecutions out there.
I think he is hating it. I don't think he ever wanted to win.

But I do think he may think having immunity and the pardon power (for his family) is very helpful.
Let's bomb Russia!

FunkMonk

#143
September 26, 2019, 03:56:11 PM
The funny thing is Donald triggered an impeachment inquiry by trying to screw over someone who is looking increasingly unlikely (if the trend toward Liz continues) to be the actual nominee he faces next year.

This whole thing is like an episode of Veep.
Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

garbon

#144
September 26, 2019, 04:56:13 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2019/sep/26/donald-trump-ukraine-live-news-latest-us-politics

QuoteAudio was released of Trump expressing a wish to know the identity of the whistleblower's sources and alluding to retaliation against those officials. Trump said: "I want to know who's the person, who's the person who gave the whistleblower the information? Because that's close to a spy. You know what we used to do in the old days when we were smart?"
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

jimmy olsen

#145
September 26, 2019, 05:27:35 PM
The complaint says over half a dozen talked to the whistleblower.  I assume one was Dan Coats who already resigned.
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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crazy canuck

#146
September 26, 2019, 07:08:25 PM
Quote from: Josephus on September 26, 2019, 12:11:43 PM
Can anyone picture a scenario where, even though he won't get impeached, Trump decides NOT to run in 2020. I'm thinking these past two years have probably been the most stressful in his life, and what, really, is in it for him, from here on in? He was president, he achieved that goal. Why go though all this "persecution" for another four years?

He needs to stay in power to avoid the criminal prosecutions that await suspect #1

jimmy olsen

#147
September 26, 2019, 07:33:22 PM
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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The Minsky Moment

#148
September 27, 2019, 05:27:11 PM
The latest talking point from the Idiot Party is that it's not a real whistleblower complaint it's "hearsay."  Of course a whistleblower complaint can be based on information learned from others.  "Hearsay" is a set of rules governing how and in what form evidence is admitted into court, it's not an insult or attack on credibility.
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

The Larch

#149
September 27, 2019, 05:42:17 PM
Apparently Trump is asking the NRA for money for his legal defence in exchange of blocking gun control legistlation.
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