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Started by merithyn, July 29, 2019, 12:17:38 PM

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DGuller

Sadly, the NRA nuts have simply won the narrative.  They may not be numerically in the majority, but their marginal political impact is certainly high.  Nothing will get done until something happens that wakes up the conscience and empathy of the gun nuts.

11B4V

If Las Vegas and/or Sandy Hook didn't move the needle, neither will these.

"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

merithyn

Quote from: DGuller on August 04, 2019, 11:36:32 AM
Sadly, the NRA nuts have simply won the narrative.  They may not be numerically in the majority, but their marginal political impact is certainly high.  Nothing will get done until something happens that wakes up the conscience and empathy of the gun nuts.

According to the Texas Lieutenant Governor, we just need to put prayer back in schools. That'll fix it.
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

The Brain

Quote from: merithyn on August 04, 2019, 11:49:30 AM
Quote from: DGuller on August 04, 2019, 11:36:32 AM
Sadly, the NRA nuts have simply won the narrative.  They may not be numerically in the majority, but their marginal political impact is certainly high.  Nothing will get done until something happens that wakes up the conscience and empathy of the gun nuts.

According to the Texas Lieutenant Governor, we just need to put prayer back in schools. That'll fix it.

Well it's halfway there.
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DGuller

Quote from: merithyn on August 04, 2019, 11:49:30 AM
Quote from: DGuller on August 04, 2019, 11:36:32 AM
Sadly, the NRA nuts have simply won the narrative.  They may not be numerically in the majority, but their marginal political impact is certainly high.  Nothing will get done until something happens that wakes up the conscience and empathy of the gun nuts.

According to the Texas Lieutenant Governor, we just need to put prayer back in schools. That'll fix it.
There is probably a psychological aspect there beyond just the typical idiocy at work.  It's a lot easier to ignore the connection between gun fetish and exploded skulls of innocent people if you can project the blame onto someone else.

merithyn

I changed the subject. Not worth trying to keep up anymore.
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

Sophie Scholl

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Quote from: merithyn on August 04, 2019, 11:49:30 AM
According to the Texas Lieutenant Governor, we just need to put prayer back in schools. That'll fix it.
Don't forget the Lieutenant Governor of Texas and the piece of shit "journalist" Andy Ngo pushing the "Antifa is deep down the real cause of the shooting in El Paso and they should stay out of Texas" narrative.
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FunkMonk

Quote from: Benedict Arnold on August 04, 2019, 03:29:41 PM
Quote from: merithyn on August 04, 2019, 11:49:30 AM
According to the Texas Lieutenant Governor, we just need to put prayer back in schools. That'll fix it.
Don't forget the Lieutenant Governor of Texas and the piece of shit "journalist" Andy Ngo pushing the "Antifa is deep down the real cause of the shooting in El Paso and they should stay out of Texas" narrative.

Actually I'm told it's video games that are really to blame.
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Camerus

Antifa are scum and should stay out of Texas  - or just about anywhere for that matter. I'm glad they  - or their extreme right equivalent - don't noticeably operate in my city.   :)

Is there a link to a story where Andy Ngo blames them for the shooting?

11B4V

Quote from: Benedict Arnold on August 04, 2019, 03:29:41 PM
Quote from: merithyn on August 04, 2019, 11:49:30 AM
According to the Texas Lieutenant Governor, we just need to put prayer back in schools. That'll fix it.
Don't forget the Lieutenant Governor of Texas and the piece of shit "journalist" Andy Ngo pushing the "Antifa is deep down the real cause of the shooting in El Paso and they should stay out of Texas" narrative.

Ah, the blame game.
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

Razgovory

Quote from: Camerus on August 04, 2019, 06:14:37 PM
Antifa are scum and should stay out of Texas  - or just about anywhere for that matter. I'm glad they  - or their extreme right equivalent - don't noticeably operate in my city.   :)

Is there a link to a story where Andy Ngo blames them for the shooting?

I think the Right-wing equivalent would be 3%ers.  Like Antifa, I don't think they've ever killed anyone in the US.  I'm not certain of that, there could be 3 Percenter linked murders.  They probably do operate in your city.

It is very important we shout the word "antifa" as loud as possible.  We need to create some sort of connection, no matter how fictional, so people won't think about the fact that a person just killed 20 people because he acted on what are typical Republican talking points.
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merithyn

Dayton police killed the shooter 30 seconds after he fired his first shot. He still managed to kill 9 people and injure over a dozen.

Jesus. That's insane.
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

Oexmelin

Well armed citizens should randomly shoot in crowds to prevent mass shootings by bad guys.
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Valmy

Quote from: merithyn on August 04, 2019, 11:22:16 AM
So, other than Benedict Arnold's post,  nothing in the latest shooting? Just whether the police are too militarized?

Welcome to America, where radicalized white men shooting a couple dozen people is so mainstream as to be ignored anymore.

Not blaming you guys. Just sad at that reality.

I mean after awhile what is the point of discussing them? Nothing happens or changes.
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11B4V

Quote from: merithyn on August 04, 2019, 10:21:37 PM
Dayton police killed the shooter 30 seconds after he fired his first shot. He still managed to kill 9 people and injure over a dozen.

Jesus. That's insane.

Thirty seconds is a lot of time for a shooter. Even an untrained one. While the police response was exceptionally fast this time... It is generally not the norm
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".