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Discipline in American Civil War Armies

Started by alfred russel, May 29, 2019, 05:44:43 PM

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The Minsky Moment

Quote from: Valmy on May 30, 2019, 10:52:00 AM
Early on the southern strategy was defensive and passive (granted they had an army to train and organize so that was mostly by necessity) and they stretched their armies out in a thin line to guard the border, which was absolutely not what they should have done and it cost them.

"The South" was not a tightly organized and disciplined national state reasonably capable of conceiving and implementing a grand strategy that would deliberately leave territory wide open to invasion.  It was a hastily improvised assemblage of jealous mini-sovereigns.
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Habbaku

Jefferson Davis's leadership of the South precluded grand strategy. The man was Lincoln's inferior in every subject possible except direct military experience. And, arguably, that was to Davis's detriment and Lincoln's favor considering the shape of the war.
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alfred russel

Quote from: Threviel on May 30, 2019, 12:28:20 PM
The argument from my latest book was that Lee, however well he fought his battles, was not going to get a positive casualty ratio enough to win the war. Even his greatest victories weakened the Confederacy more than the Union. Sure, he might do it with a huge victory ending with the destruction of the army of the Potomac, but that was realistically not going to happen.

A defence based on making the Union assault prepared defences while their rear was harassed would have been optimal, but that's not what the Confederacy did.

I don't think so. I think Lee was right and needed a shock and awe victory to bring the North to the peace table.

The problem is that there was far too much territory to defend, the South didn't have a navy, and the South was badly outnumbered. That the South was running a slave economy also badly hurt it--it made the occupation of its territory much more tenable as there were large segments of the population ready to collaborate with and join the North.

To point out that Johnston didn't have the right idea--Sherman left the Chattanooga area in early May and was on the outskirts of Atlanta by the end of June. That is over 100 miles - the distance between Chattanooga and Atlanta is slightly more than Washington DC to Richmond. It isn't just that all that territory was ceded without a major threat to Sherman--but that Georgia territory was part of one of the last Confederate states not directly impacted by the war. It was needed to sustain the war effort.

The focus is always on the east, but by the end of August 1863 the situation in the confederacy was such:
1. Mississippi River was completely controlled by the Union with the fall of Vicksburg. New Orleans (the largest Confederate city) was lost back in April 1862.
2. Tennessee was effectively lost with the occupation of Chattanooga.
3. The situation in the east was by contrast relatively positive. The army of northern virginia was obviously smarting after the gettysburg campaign, but was stable enough to send the better part of a corps to tennessee to try to stabilize the situation there.

The point being: I think the history of the civil war is that the south gets its ass kicked everywhere but in the headline theater. The war only lasted until 1865 because the south was so big it took the union a long time to walk everywhere and the south wouldn't give up with the army of northern virginia still viable and richmond unconquered.

If Lee had focused more on defense, I don't see a path to victory for the South. I think he was ultimately right that he needed to bag the army of the potomac (which anyway may not have been enough). While a few seemingly came close several times, I think it is telling that for whatever reason armies in the field were basically never destroyed during the war on either side. The technology of the era may have been such that he was chasing an impossible dream.

But then on the other hand, in European wars of the era armies were quickly routed by the Prussians. I know the theater of operations in Europe was much more contained, but that still seems a bit odd to me.
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alfred russel

Quote from: Habbaku on May 30, 2019, 03:11:42 PM
Jefferson Davis's leadership of the South precluded grand strategy. The man was Lincoln's inferior in every subject possible except direct military experience. And, arguably, that was to Davis's detriment and Lincoln's favor considering the shape of the war.

The problem with shitting on Davis's strategy is that the Confederacy lasted until April 1865.

Suppose I put you in charge of a newly cobbled together country that is poor and agrarian and going to war with a wealthy and industrialized country next door. It has 27 million people. I give you 5 million white folks, which you have to use to not just beat that country next door but also to oppress 4 million slaves. By the way, you don't get a real navy and your enemy does.

What is the over/under for how long you last?
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle.

I'm embarrassed. I've been making the mistake of associating with you. It won't happen again. :)
-garbon, February 23, 2014

Habbaku

Why is my personal ability at all relevant to Davis's not having a strategy and being an incompetent leader?
The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

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The Brain

Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 30, 2019, 02:44:20 PM
Keagan, in The Face of Battle, says that during the Napoleonic Wars bayonets very rarely touched bayonets.  Either the defender ran in fear or the attacker got shot up and ran back.

Yes they're great for beating the enemy.
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Tonitrus

What the South needed to win was AK-47s.

Habbaku

The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

Government is an abstract noun meaning the art and process of governing and it should be an offence to write it with a capital G or so as to refer to people.

-J. R. R. Tolkien

The Minsky Moment

Quote from: alfred russel on May 30, 2019, 03:38:30 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on May 30, 2019, 03:11:42 PM
Jefferson Davis's leadership of the South precluded grand strategy. The man was Lincoln's inferior in every subject possible except direct military experience. And, arguably, that was to Davis's detriment and Lincoln's favor considering the shape of the war.

The problem with shitting on Davis's strategy is that the Confederacy lasted until April 1865.

Suppose I put you in charge of a newly cobbled together country that is poor and agrarian and going to war with a wealthy and industrialized country next door. It has 27 million people. I give you 5 million white folks, which you have to use to not just beat that country next door but also to oppress 4 million slaves. By the way, you don't get a real navy and your enemy does.

What is the over/under for how long you last?

Let's say I put you in charge of an assemblage of revolting mini-states that isn't a country at all, suffering from grave internal division, with around 1/3 of the population favoring and supporting the enemy forces.  It has no navy to speak of, and no real army either, other than a quickly assembled force of about 25,000 poorly trained and inexperienced men and a grab bag of unorganized militia. Most of its population, commerce, and infrastructure, is located on or near its virtually indefensible coastline, at the mercy of its enemy. It faces the most powerful nation on the face of the Earth, with a population more than triple its size, disposing of vast naval forces and highly disciplined and well trained regular soldiers.

That was the situation of the revolting US states in 1776.  It's not hard too see why southern leaders could think they could turn the trick again, especially given the daunting task for the Union of penetrating and pacifying the vast interior of the southern states c. 1861.
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alfred russel

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on May 30, 2019, 04:00:22 PM

Let's say I put you in charge of an assemblage of revolting mini-states that isn't a country at all, suffering from grave internal division, with around 1/3 of the population favoring and supporting the enemy forces.  It has no navy to speak of, and no real army either, other than a quickly assembled force of about 25,000 poorly trained and inexperienced men and a grab bag of unorganized militia. Most of its population, commerce, and infrastructure, is located on or near its virtually indefensible coastline, at the mercy of its enemy. It faces the most powerful nation on the face of the Earth, with a population more than triple its size, disposing of vast naval forces and highly disciplined and well trained regular soldiers.

That was the situation of the revolting US states in 1776.  It's not hard too see why southern leaders could think they could turn the trick again, especially given the daunting task for the Union of penetrating and pacifying the vast interior of the southern states c. 1861.

While that is true, there are also a lot of differences (the confederacy being a slave state principal among them).

Also, while pacifying the vast interior of the southern states was indeed a daunting task, I don't think that occupying Richmond would seem as challenging.
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle.

I'm embarrassed. I've been making the mistake of associating with you. It won't happen again. :)
-garbon, February 23, 2014

Razgovory

Quote from: derspiess on May 30, 2019, 02:18:35 PM
They were still more accurate than smoothbore muskets, and had a much greater effective range.

What good is a more accurate rifle if you don't aim it?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

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dps

Quote from: Razgovory on May 30, 2019, 06:36:29 PM
Quote from: derspiess on May 30, 2019, 02:18:35 PM
They were still more accurate than smoothbore muskets, and had a much greater effective range.

What good is a more accurate rifle if you don't aim it?

The value of rifled muskets wasn't really the improved accuracy--as you point out, that doesn't matter much unless you aim.  And in battles, nobody except the specially trained snipers really aims.  That's pretty much always been true, and as best as I can tell, is still true even on modern battlefields.  The real value of the rifled muskets was the increased range.  With a smoothbore, you might only get 3 or 4 shots off against an infantry charge (and you'd be luck to get 2 shots against a cavalry charge).  With rifles, your shot could travel maybe 3 times as far, so you could fire 3 times as many shots against enemy forces within effective range (actually, even more, because the effective range of smoothbores was about the same as the distance troops could sustain a full charge--with rifles, you could hit them at a distance greater than that at which the could charge, so the time you had them under effective fire wouldn't just be tripled, it would be increase by a factor of 4 or 5, maybe even 6).  Even without taking that last bit into consideration, you'd render ineffective 3 times as many enemy troops even without any improvement in the accuracy of your fire.

When discussing leadership, keep in mind that the US Army was tiny during peacetime--this didn't really change until after WWII.  I believe I've read that before the Civil War, the Army only had about 16,000 men.  I looked on Wikipedia, but I couldn't find any confirmation of that, though it did say that the before the Mexican-American war the strength of the Army was only 6,000.  There simply weren't enough troops before war to give officers any experience leading large forces, and with the wartime expansion of the Army, there weren't enough of even the minimally experience Regular Army officers to go around.  And while a lot of the better-known ACW generals had seen action during the Mexican-American War, they were all relatively junior officers--the Mexican-American War generals were largely the War of 1812 veterans who were still active, who were all either dead or too old or otherwise unfit for field command by 1860.

I think that A.S. Johnston was the only prominent ACW general who had ever commanded even a full regiment prior to the war, and even he hadn't ever lead a full regiment in active operations.  I could be wrong about that;  I'd probably have to dig into primary sources I don't have easy access to to be sure, and even if I had such access, I don't really have the time.

EDIT:  found on Wikipedia that the pre-ACW size of the US Army was 16,367.  'Bout what I had thought.

jimmy olsen

Quote from: Valmy on May 30, 2019, 12:24:45 PM
Quote from: Tyr on May 30, 2019, 12:09:00 PM
Interesting stuff.

Not getting the bayonet tossing though. A way of making it so their commanders couldn't order bayonet charges?

Supposedly there was a pattern where soldiers who were making a bayonet attack tended to stop short and just start firing into the opposing force at point blank range. For whatever reason (psychology?) they very rarely managed to actually get into that sort of contact.

Early in the war Texas had a force of lancers, complete with little Texas flags on their lances. When they were ordered to charge the enemy they did something similar, coming very close to the Union line but ultimately stopping short and falling back (because, being lancers, they had no guns).

The soldiers had almost suicidal bravery when it came to fire fights but for whatever reason they had a hard time applying shock tactics.

I've posted this before, but maybe you missed it.

Basically, melee combat is far more terrifying to soldiers than missile combat. Unless your army is as disciplined as the Romans or early modern European armies, they just aren't going to bring themselves to do it.
http://scholars-stage.blogspot.com/2015/10/pre-modern-battlefields-were-absolutely.html
QuotePre-Modern Battlefields Were Absolutely Terrifying

"Man does not enter battle to fight, but for victory. He does everything that he can to avoid the first and obtain the second"

Ardant du Picq, Battle Studies: Ancient and Modern Battle, trans. John Greely and Robert Cotton (or. pub. Paris, 1870; trans. edition, New York, 1921), pg. 1.

Of the many books and articles published explaining the tactical mechanics of ancient and medieval warfare, none have influenced my views on the topic more than a short article by Philip Sabin titled "The Face of Roman Battle." In this article Sabin attempts to draw an accurate description of the way a Roman legion and its maniples actually worked on the battlefield. He is not the only one to attempt this feat. The clearest description of the pre-Marian armies is the account found in the eighteenth book of Polybius's Histories, and historians have been squabbling over just what Polybius's rather ambiguous report means for the better part of the last two centuries. I believe that Sabin's is the best of their efforts. What makes his description so convincing is the building blocks he uses to construct it. Sabin starts his reconstruction with a few general insights about the nature of ancient combat, especially the hand-to-hand sort. His most important insight is this: close combat is absolutely terrifying. When you realize just how terrifying it is much of what we find in the ancient and medieval source starts to make a lot more sense.

Sabin's case study is the Roman legion. In his essay's first section Sabin surveys common features of battle narratives preserved in the extant histories and concludes that any description of Roman battle mechanics must be able to explain a few odd features of these accounts to be considered legitimate:

Roman heavy infantry engagements possessed several clear characteristics which must be accounted for by any model of the combat mechanics involved. If not decided at the first clash, the contests often dragged on for an hour or more before one side finally broke and fled. The losers could suffer appalling casualties in the battle itself or in the ensuing pursuit, but the victors rarely suffered more than 5 per cent fatalities even in drawn-out engagements. The fighting lines could shift back and forth over hundreds of yards as one side withdrew or was pushed back by its opponents. Finally, the Romans had a practical system for the passage of lines, and preferred to reinforce or replace tired units with fresh ones rather than maximizing the depth of the initial fighting line. [1]

As Sabin read the ancient accounts he realized that parallels for many features of Roman combat could be found in descriptions of early modern Europe's bayonet charge:

We know from eighteenth- and nineteenth-century engagements that bayonets caused only a tiny proportion of battle casualties, but bayonet charges do seem to have been decisive in triggering routs. The explanation for this apparent paradox seems to be that cold steel held a unique terror for troops, over and above that caused by the more random and impersonal perils of shot and shell. The morale of opposed infantry formations appears to have been closely interlinked, such that if one side could nerve itself to launch a bayonet charge in the conviction that the enemy would not stand, the enemy did indeed break before contact. Conversely, if mutual deterrence was maintained, then the combat could bog down into a bloody close-range firefight between the opposing lines, often lasting for hours....

There are striking parallels between the psychological role of bayonet charges in modern warfare and the way in which many ancient combats were decided at or before the first shock, with a charge by one side prompting its enemies to take flight at once. Hoplite engagements seem to have been particularly susceptible to such an early resolution, sometimes even producing 'tearless battles' when one side fled so soon that it outdistanced any pursuit. Goldsworthy claims that late Republican and early Imperial legionaries exploited their professionalism and esprit de corps by winning similar swift victories against less resolute opponents through a coordinated volley of pila followed by a fierce charge. This chimes exactly with Paddy Griffith's argument that the disciplined British infantry of the Napoleonic Wars beat the French not through winning prolonged firefights but through a single devastating musket volley followed by a charge with the bayonet. [2]

Why was cold steel a "unique terror" for troops in combat? On the face of it a sword does not seem any more frightening than the cannon-ball. Pop culture portrayals of small imperialist forces putting hordes of backward natives to flight with nothing but gun and powder suggest the opposite conclusion. Images of countless thousands led to the slaughter on the banks of the Somme or hills of Verdun only strengthen the impression. But those men who actually withstood both the bullet and the bayonet overwhelmingly preferred to face the former. A similar preference for arrows and cross-bows shot from afar over spear thrusts and sword strokes closer to home pervades the ancient and medieval sources.

To understand why this was so you must discard Hollywood notions of close combat. This is hard to do, for the notions are much older than Hollywood. The classical Chinese novels Outlaws of the Marsh and Romance of the Three Kingdoms speak of warriors who exchange five, ten, twenty, and even fifty "rounds" or "clashes" on the battlefield. The long duels of ancient India's great war epic, the Mahabharata, are matched only by the extended contests of its Greek counterpart, the Iliad. All of it is poppycock. Ancient battles did not descend into a series of extended melees when the two front lines collided. The silliness of the Hollywood style of battle becomes immediately apparent when you watch sparring competitions that use pre-modern weapons:

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As you can see, most close quarter engagements are decided within seconds. To engage in hand to hand combat is to hang your life on a the balance of a few split second decisions. This is terrifying. It is all the more terrifying if the enemy force is as committed and disciplined as your own.  If you survive the first encounter--that is, if you successfully kill the first man who attempts to kill you--there will be another, and then yet another to fill in his place. How long can you keep making instant life-or-death decisions before you make a mistake? The odds are not in your favor. The physical and mental strain of close quarters combat on those in the front lines is simply more than can be borne for any great stretch of time.

Sabin explains why this is important:
What does all this mean for the many cases in Roman infantry battles where neither side broke at the outset, and the combat turned into a prolonged affair? I suggest that close-range sword dueling between steady bodies of infantry must have been a highly unstable state, and one that would require massive injections of physical and psychological energy either to initiate or to sustain for any length of time. It was clearly only the availability of protective armor and shields that made such duels endurable at all, given their apparent intolerability for the unprotected troops of more modern times. I would argue that there must also have been a more physically and psychologically sustainable 'default state' within protracted Roman infantry contests, into which the combatants would naturally relapse if the initial advances by either side failed to trigger an early rout.

We can see such 'default states' in a wide variety of other forms of human combat. Anthropological observations of primitive tribes confirm the image in heroic poetry of protracted stand-offs in which individual warriors would move forward to do battle and then retreat into the safety of the supporting mass. Even when lethal weapons are not involved, we can see similar stand-offs between rioting mobs and lines of police, or at an individual level between dueling boxers, who spend much more time circling each other warily and looking for an opening than they do in the actual flurries of blow and counter-blow. I suggest that the default state in protracted Roman infantry combats would have been similar to that between eighteenth- and nineteenth-century infantry, namely a small separation of the two lines so that they could exchange insults and missile fire but were not quite close enough for hand-to-hand dueling. If such a default state existed in Roman infantry clashes, this raises the question of the frequency and duration of actual sword fighting between the opposing lines. Could troops who had closed for such sword play disengage without routing, and re-establish the 'safety distance'? How long a period of sword fighting was physically and psychologically sustainable before the tension had to be broken either by a reversion to the default stand-off or by the flight of one side? What proportion of the overall length of infantry clashes was spent in sword dueling, and what proportion in sporadic missile exchanges from a short distance away? [3]

Sabin does not believe that "pure missile duel" style of battle, decided by one great final charge at its end, accords with the surviving narrative sources:

Such a radical image seems to me incompatible with the many references in the literature to true hand-to-hand fighting, and it makes it difficult to explain how one side could 'push back' its adversaries during the course of the contest. Hence, unlike in the stalemated firefights of more recent times, I believe that in most Roman battles the lines did sporadically come into contact, as one side or the other surged forward for a brief and localized flurry of hand-to-hand combat. The flurry of combat would end when one side got the worst of the exchange, and its troops would step back to re-impose the 'safety distance' while brandishing their weapons to deter immediate enemy pursuit....

The model of Roman infantry combat as a dynamic balance of mutual dread fits the overall characteristics of the phenomenon far better than do the alternative images of a protracted othismos [i.e. a group of massed infantry pressing each forward, hopolite style] or continuous sword dueling. It helps to explain why some clashes were decided at the first onset while others dragged on for hours. It accounts for the relatively low casualties suffered by the victorious army, since periods of close range stand-off would be far less bloody than the equivalent firefights in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, given the much lower numbers of missiles available and the fact that the great majority would be blocked by the large infantry shields (cf. Livy 28.2, 28.32-3; Caesar, BGI .26; Josephus, BJ 3. I I2-I4). The model also suggests how one side could gradually 'push' another back over distances of hundreds of yards, since if it was always the same side that gave way after the sporadic flurries of hand-to-hand dueling, the accumulation of such small withdrawals would have significant grand tactical impact over time. [4]

But if cold steel was so frightening, why would men engage in close quarters combat at all? Again, Sabin explains:

Why would parts of each line sporadically surge forward into contact? The key individuals would surely be the 'natural fighters' and junior leaders, who would encourage a concerted lunge forward to overcome the understandable reluctance among their comrades to be the first to advance into the wall of enemy blades. Roman sub- units such as centuries, maniples, and cohorts offered an ideal basis for such localized charges, whereas tribal warriors would mount less disciplined attacks led by the bolder spirits among them. The many accounts of Roman standard-bearers carrying or flinging their standards towards the enemy to embolden the onslaught of their comrades (as at Pydna and in Caesar's invasion of Britain) are of obvious relevance in this connection (Plutarch, Aem. 20; Caesar, BG 4.25). Across an overall infantry battlefront many hundreds of yards wide, the back and forth movement of individual sub-units or warrior bands just the crucial few yards to engage in or disengage from hand-to-hand combat would not prejudice the maintenance of the overall line. If such flurries of sword fighting were not quickly decisive, then sheer physical and nervous exhaustion, coupled with the killing or wounding of the key junior leaders who were inspiring their men to engage, would lead the two sides to separate back to the default stand-off. The fact that even phalangites could step back facing the enemy (as at Sellasia) indicates that there was usually sufficient 'give' within infantry formations to allow front-rankers to shy away from their adversaries without bumping immediately into the man behind. Indeed, when this flexibility was removed and troops became too closely packed together, thereby hindering their ability to use their weapons properly or to step back from clashes which were not going well, they risked exposing themselves to one-sided slaughter. Something like this clearly happened at Cannae, and it could well be that a key reason why flank and rear attacks were so devastating was not just the psychological shock they caused but the fact that they crowded the victims in on one another, removing their ability to re-establish the 'safety distance' and so to recover their cohesion and fighting effectiveness. [5]

Sabin goes on to describe how this model of legionary activity makes sense of the ambiguous descriptions of Rome's famous maniple system, and why the maniples would be so effective in this style of combat. I encourage those interested in Roman history to read the entire thing. But I hope readers can see how easily Sabin's insights transfer to the wars of men who lived far from Rome. Not every army in the pre-modern world had maniples, but many had large infantry contingents intended to destroy their enemies in close quarters. The tempo of their battles would have been decided by fear and terror, as it was with the Romans. Sabin's model of periodic surges of courage temporarily hurling front lines together should be the default image of every mass infantry battle waged in the pre-modern era.

EDIT (27/10/2015 11:00 AM): A reader has pointed out to me that Philip Sabin has recently published a book that fleshes out this model and uses it to analyze the narrative accounts of famous Roman and Greek battles. I have not read it yet, but it looks interesting: Lost Battles: Reconstructing the Great Clashes of the Ancient World.

EDIT (27/10/2015 4:00 PM): Also see my short follow up post to this one: "A Few More Thoughts on the Terrors of Pre-Modern Battle."
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Razgovory

Quote from: dps on May 30, 2019, 07:52:52 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 30, 2019, 06:36:29 PM
Quote from: derspiess on May 30, 2019, 02:18:35 PM
They were still more accurate than smoothbore muskets, and had a much greater effective range.

What good is a more accurate rifle if you don't aim it?

The value of rifled muskets wasn't really the improved accuracy--as you point out, that doesn't matter much unless you aim.  And in battles, nobody except the specially trained snipers really aims.  That's pretty much always been true, and as best as I can tell, is still true even on modern battlefields.  The real value of the rifled muskets was the increased range.  With a smoothbore, you might only get 3 or 4 shots off against an infantry charge (and you'd be luck to get 2 shots against a cavalry charge).  With rifles, your shot could travel maybe 3 times as far, so you could fire 3 times as many shots against enemy forces within effective range (actually, even more, because the effective range of smoothbores was about the same as the distance troops could sustain a full charge--with rifles, you could hit them at a distance greater than that at which the could charge, so the time you had them under effective fire wouldn't just be tripled, it would be increase by a factor of 4 or 5, maybe even 6).  Even without taking that last bit into consideration, you'd render ineffective 3 times as many enemy troops even without any improvement in the accuracy of your fire.

When discussing leadership, keep in mind that the US Army was tiny during peacetime--this didn't really change until after WWII.  I believe I've read that before the Civil War, the Army only had about 16,000 men.  I looked on Wikipedia, but I couldn't find any confirmation of that, though it did say that the before the Mexican-American war the strength of the Army was only 6,000.  There simply weren't enough troops before war to give officers any experience leading large forces, and with the wartime expansion of the Army, there weren't enough of even the minimally experience Regular Army officers to go around.  And while a lot of the better-known ACW generals had seen action during the Mexican-American War, they were all relatively junior officers--the Mexican-American War generals were largely the War of 1812 veterans who were still active, who were all either dead or too old or otherwise unfit for field command by 1860.

I think that A.S. Johnston was the only prominent ACW general who had ever commanded even a full regiment prior to the war, and even he hadn't ever lead a full regiment in active operations.  I could be wrong about that;  I'd probably have to dig into primary sources I don't have easy access to to be sure, and even if I had such access, I don't really have the time.

EDIT:  found on Wikipedia that the pre-ACW size of the US Army was 16,367.  'Bout what I had thought.

Do we actually know that people were firing at three times the range of the previous weapons?  Also, why would the bullet be traveling three times as far?  A rifled barrel doesn't make the gun powder stronger.  I imagine that the quality of the gunpowder was better than the Napoleonic wars, and the percussion cap made the weapon much more reliable, but I wouldn't expect the amount of energy behind the bullet would increase so dramatically.

I was curious so I used Wikipedia to compare the 1861 Rifle to the Springfield 1812 musket and shows the same muzzle velocity.  It is Wikipedia, so that's not exactly definitive, but on the other hand I don't see any particular reason to doubt it.  The actual rate of fire is also similar.  For the 1812 2-3 round a minute and for the 1861 it says 2-4 rounds a minute.  So about the same.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

jimmy olsen

The rifling makes the bullet spin Raz, that means that it maintains a stable trajectory as it travels through the air and cuts down on wind resistance, so it flies much farther even though it was propelled with a similar amount of power.
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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