Julian Assange: Wikileaks co-founder arrested in London

Started by Syt, April 11, 2019, 04:47:43 AM

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garbon

#15
April 11, 2019, 09:38:27 AM
Quote from: Tamas on April 11, 2019, 08:37:20 AM
Quote from: derspiess on April 11, 2019, 08:30:36 AM
Womp womp

Actually, isn't he supposed to be a good guy now from your side's point of view? He has never smeared Russia even once, actively helped Russian efforts to hinder Clinton, and in general was hell-bent on causing as much trouble to pre-Trump USA as possible.

Of course, Assange was also on good terms with Chelsea Manning.
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derspiess

#16
April 11, 2019, 09:43:04 AM
It's Womanning now  :sleep:
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garbon

#17
April 11, 2019, 09:45:58 AM
Quote from: derspiess on April 11, 2019, 09:43:04 AM
It's Womanning now  :sleep:

Actually I believe she is now Miss Sitting in Solitary.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

derspiess

#18
April 11, 2019, 09:51:07 AM
Womp womp
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Valmy

#20
April 11, 2019, 10:01:14 AM
I thought Assange and Wikileaks were sincere at one point. I was a moron.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Tamas

#21
April 11, 2019, 10:01:46 AM
Quote from: garbon on April 11, 2019, 09:38:27 AM
Quote from: Tamas on April 11, 2019, 08:37:20 AM
Quote from: derspiess on April 11, 2019, 08:30:36 AM
Womp womp

Actually, isn't he supposed to be a good guy now from your side's point of view? He has never smeared Russia even once, actively helped Russian efforts to hinder Clinton, and in general was hell-bent on causing as much trouble to pre-Trump USA as possible.

Of course, Assange was also on good terms with Chelsea Manning.

It's a beautiful friendship.

BTW we need one of the German posters to post about this AFD politican scandal. Apparently one of their MP got busted being on Russian payroll/influence. He is tied with a lots of ties to a Polish and Hungarian MP who are on Russian payroll as well.

Habbaku

#22
April 11, 2019, 10:01:53 AM
Does someone have a good breakdown somewhere of why I should like or hate him? I haven't paid much attention to this story over the years.
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Tamas

#23
April 11, 2019, 10:07:00 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on April 11, 2019, 10:01:53 AM
Does someone have a good breakdown somewhere of why I should like or hate him? I haven't paid much attention to this story over the years.

It's much easier if you just blindly follow me, and dislike him.

garbon

#24
April 11, 2019, 10:15:49 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on April 11, 2019, 10:01:53 AM
Does someone have a good breakdown somewhere of why I should like or hate him? I haven't paid much attention to this story over the years.

Here's the guardian summary of the last 7 years: https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/apr/11/how-ecuador-lost-patience-with-houseguest-julian-assange
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

The Minsky Moment

#25
April 11, 2019, 10:41:28 AM
Assange's asylum was Correa's idea, as part of his (left) populist agenda of anti-western posturing.  His successor, notwithstanding his first name, is more pragmatic and understandably viewed Assange as an annoyance, an embarrassment, and an inconvenience.
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Berkut

#26
April 11, 2019, 10:42:31 AM
This isn't exactly that, but pretty much encapsulates why I think he is a tool now, and why I've thought he was a tool all along:

https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/08/17/wikileaks-turned-down-leaks-on-russian-government-during-u-s-presidential-campaign/?fbclid=IwAR2WF6i5TY4Wb2r1klCP1FL925ieenKWqcGGQvJMijX-OiRYlAl4jNiTXnk
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celedhring

#27
April 11, 2019, 10:49:49 AM
The separatist-led Catalan government has been quick to condemn the arrest, so I guess that's as much confirmation as I needed that he's a cunt.

But well, it's been obvious for a few years that he's a pawn of illiberal forces.

Valmy

#28
April 11, 2019, 10:49:54 AM
He is supposed to be for transparency and freedom of information but goes out of his way to defend totalitarian regimes and hide all damaging information not about his targets. He is the opposite of what he presents himself as.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Eddie Teach

#29
April 11, 2019, 10:52:21 AM
Quote from: garbon on April 11, 2019, 09:37:22 AM
Quote from: Barrister on April 11, 2019, 09:33:20 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on April 11, 2019, 09:08:44 AM
Quote from: Tamas on April 11, 2019, 08:37:20 AM
Quote from: derspiess on April 11, 2019, 08:30:36 AM
Womp womp

Actually, isn't he supposed to be a good guy now from your side's point of view? He has never smeared Russia even once, actively helped Russian efforts to hinder Clinton, and in general was hell-bent on causing as much trouble to pre-Trump USA as possible.

Sarah Palin called him a traitor ( I don't think she knows what that word meant), and then claimed that Assange is "all about freedom".  It's weird, but conservatives have reversed themselves on a bunch of people in the Trump era.  Like Putin and Kim Jong Un.

Well that's quite a coincidence, since I've reversed myself on Sarah Palin over the same time period.

Why did it take so long? I reversed my opinion of her between when McCain announced her as a pick and her first speech as VP pick.

Her speech was fine, it was her interviews that were a disaster.
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