Elon Musk: Always A Douche

[viper37]

An interesting take.  Do you have some evidence that "the American public at large only sees it as morally abhorrent when it's (allegedly) done by political opponents or the non-elite?" Pretty much everyone I know that has any Epstein knowledge thinks that death was too good for him (and, perhaps, too convenient for others in power).

A lot of Republicans have been convicted or accused of sexual crimes, often with minors, other times with sex workers, or people of the same sex (usually, male on male, which is seen as much more taboo).

I wouldn't use the same choice of words as Jacob, not the "American public at large".  There's a core that is still deeply interested in non partisan justice.

But a lot of people only care about justice if it's people from the other party.  If it's one of their own, they can find redemption.  Or it's simply a lie from the Deep State / the media / the enemy.  Or she/they (when the victim(s) are female) wanted it to happen, no matter the age.

We're talking about the US here, but I wouldn't say it's exclusive to the US anymore.  Well, the political part seems to originate from the US and has spread elsewhere now.

As for tolerating such behavior from the elite, I think it's been pretty much universal.  UBI Soft is in the newspaper for its problems in France, but I've heard rumors the situation wasn't really looking good in Montreal either.  They're only internet rumors so far, no journalistic investigation, certainly not a trial of any sort.  But knowing what I know of other economic sectors who are predominantly male, I don't doubt that it's possible that such behavior could be tolerated in Montreal.

[Sheilbh]

In terms of elite toleration and France - I regularly think of the Gabriel Matzneff's career and feel like a Puritan attitude to sexuality maybe isn't a bad thing after all.

[Zoupa]

In terms of elite toleration and France - I regularly think of the Gabriel Matzneff's career and feel like a Puritan attitude to sexuality maybe isn't a bad thing after all.

I still remember when Denise Bombardier called him out live and how the literary "elite" sprang forth to defend him.

There's a huge section of the cultural elite in France that consider themselves right about everything, and that if you don't agree with them you're just an anglo-saxon, a prude or a provincial bum. The rampant defense of sexual violence (Matzneff, Polanski, Delon, Depardieu etc ad nauseam), the casual dismissal of russian war crimes, etc.

Like my (communist) grandpa used to say: il nous faudrait une bonne guerre pour nettoyer tout ca.

[grumbler]

Yeah I over-egged that pudding a bit there. I'll retract that and state that have no doubt that most Americans find those kinds of sexual predation abhorrent.

I'm just disappointed about Trump and Gaetz not facing political repercussions for rape and underage sex respectively. I connected that with the frequent accusations of "pedophile" as an insult in certain social media spaces, including using connections with Epstein to imply impropriety (on both sides of the political spectrum), and the whole "pizza gate" project by the right. But Eichorn shows that politicians can still face repercussions.

I think it'd be more accurate to say that some politicians have managed to avoid political repercussions for morally abhorrent actions by successfully framing it as "politically motivated attacks", and that accusations of sexual impropriety with underage girls is a well-established vector of social media attack. And that sucks.

I agree 100%.  Trump is the first felon elected to the Presidency, and the fact that he also the first president to childishly spurn the inauguration of his successor didn't hurt him at all, either. Moral standards in the US are not what they once were. Archie Bunker would have vomited all over Trump's candidacy.

[Zoupa]

What the fuck did I just read.

[HVC]

He's on some strong stuff. Or his AI account went haywire.

[Josquius]

Your annual reminder Jordan Peterson is still alive.

[Razgovory]

I'm pretty sure that isn't real.

[Zoupa]

I'm pretty sure that isn't real.

Dammit, you're right. I got bamboozled. Looks like A fake tweet.

[grumbler]

I'm pretty sure that isn't real.

Dammit, you're right. I got bamboozled. Looks like A fake tweet.

It would have been the most clever thing Peterson has written in years had it been real.

[Duque de Bragança]

In terms of elite toleration and France - I regularly think of the Gabriel Matzneff's career and feel like a Puritan attitude to sexuality maybe isn't a bad thing after all.

Wait until Puritans are after you and your mores to make an enlightened decision. 

[Duque de Bragança]

I still remember when Denise Bombardier called him out live and how the literary "elite" sprang forth to defend him.

Pivot (RIP) should have known better, he even said himself later.

There's a huge section of the cultural elite in France that consider themselves right about everything, and that if you don't agree with them you're just an anglo-saxon, a prude or a provincial bum. The rampant defense of sexual violence (Matzneff, Polanski, Delon, Depardieu etc ad nauseam), the casual dismissal of russian war crimes, etc.

Like my (communist) grandpa used to say: il nous faudrait une bonne guerre pour nettoyer tout ca.

That's the post-Mai 68 "elite" generation for you.

[Josquius]

A new discovery about Musk -

He never uses a computer.

https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/elon-musk-laptop-openai-lawsuit-b2775986.html


Yet manages to be one of the top gamers in the world. Wow.

[Valmy]

Yeah and he wasn't the head of DOGE either.

[crazy canuck]

A new discovery about Musk -

He never uses a computer.

https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/elon-musk-laptop-openai-lawsuit-b2775986.html


Yet manages to be one of the top gamers in the world. Wow.

He later had to admit he lied about that, and he had paid someone to game for him.  So there is at least that consistency in his story - He could say he was also lying all the other times he claimed to be using a computer.