Iceland moves towards joining the EU

[Viking]

I think you mean the Lisbon Treaty not the Nice Treaty.

If so, then

[Zanza]

Okay, that explains my confusion. The Nice Treaty has been in force for six years already. By the way, there has been some kind of majority voting ever since the Treaty of Rome. They just added some more areas to it in the Lisbon Treaty and changed the voting mechanism a bit.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

Sure let them in, only after they agree to properly share* their fishing grounds.





* EU sharing involves allowing 2nd/3rd rank members to devastate your fishing stocks.

you'll probably get exemptions on that.

[The Larch]

If Iceland does apply, they'll be in by 2012, together with Croatia.

[The Larch]

Sure let them in, only after they agree to properly share* their fishing grounds.





* EU sharing involves allowing 2nd/3rd rank members to devastate your fishing stocks.

[The Larch]

What I don't get is how the elimination of Mediterranean tuna is not a bigger deal in supposedly eco friendly Europe.

It gets plenty of coverage, at least around here. IMO it's a bit exagerated and it's diverting attention from other issues, but it has to be adressed.

Why it's happening is actually quite simple, the Sicilian mafia is (fo' real!) behind its fishery, and quotas don't get in the way of their profits.

[Admiral Yi]

It gets plenty of coverage, at least around here. IMO it's a bit exagerated and it's diverting attention from other issues, but it has to be adressed.

Why it's happening is actually quite simple, the Sicilian mafia is (fo' real!) behind its fishery, and quotas don't get in the way of their profits.

What do you mean by the mafia is behind it?  The articles I've read say it is a cuppa two tree Spanish and French corporate fishing fleets (mostly Spanish).

[clandestino]

D) We have to let Spanish and Portugese trawlers rape our fisheries. Eh, probably not, look at B).

We don't own a fishing fleet anymore, we buy the fish from the Spanish as everyone else.

Anyways, more cod is always good news.

[Valmy]

We don't own a fishing fleet anymore, we buy the fish from the Spanish as everyone else.

Portugal without fishermen?!

Wow that is like Sicily without Mafioso or France without wineries.

[Warspite]

If Iceland does apply, they'll be in by 2012, together with Croatia.

Don't count on it.

Fucking Slovenes.

[Neil]

I would imagine that the 'loot and plunder' EU would be happy for another biosphere to rape.

[The Larch]

It gets plenty of coverage, at least around here. IMO it's a bit exagerated and it's diverting attention from other issues, but it has to be adressed.

Why it's happening is actually quite simple, the Sicilian mafia is (fo' real!) behind its fishery, and quotas don't get in the way of their profits.

What do you mean by the mafia is behind it?  The articles I've read say it is a cuppa two tree Spanish and French corporate fishing fleets (mostly Spanish).

The two fleets more responsible for the overfishing of Mediterranean bluefin tuna are the French one based in Marseilles and the Italian one based in Sicily. Both are directly or indirectly controlled by organized crime, and EU inspectors and environmental groups have been threatened recently when they were hitting too close to home.

[The Larch]

If Iceland does apply, they'll be in by 2012, together with Croatia.

Don't count on it.

Fucking Slovenes.

What's the problem with Slovenia? The territorial waters thingie?

[clandestino]

Don't count on it.

Fucking Slovenes.

Why is Croatia claiming that coastal strip anyways? Don't they have enough coast and islands already?

(That's the story a Slovene sold me BTW).

@Valmy: When we entered the EU they were paying for the people to destroy their fishing boats, and since there are few things that Portuguese like the most then free money without working, we decimated the fleet and now buy from our Lords, the Spanish.

[Neil]

What I don't get is how the elimination of Mediterranean tuna is not a bigger deal in supposedly eco friendly Europe.

It gets plenty of coverage, at least around here. IMO it's a bit exagerated and it's diverting attention from other issues, but it has to be adressed.

Why it's happening is actually quite simple, the Sicilian mafia is (fo' real!) behind its fishery, and quotas don't get in the way of their profits.