In Mycenaean Warrior’s Grave, Rings of Power

Started by jimmy olsen, December 16, 2016, 12:50:52 AM

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Pretty sure there's a Gold Bond cream that can take care of that.

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Jacob

Quote from: PDH on December 19, 2016, 12:16:23 AM
I have the Head of Vecna.

How do you guys manage? I couldn't even get a damn toenail clipping.

viper37

Quote from: Jacob on December 16, 2016, 01:51:32 PM
Also they needed more singing like that bit at the beginning of the Hobbit.
definately not!
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viper37

Quote from: Monoriu on December 17, 2016, 08:38:17 PM
The Lord of the Rings movies are masterpieces with minor problems that can be overlooked  :bowler:
Finally, a connaisseur! :)
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viper37

Quote from: Valmy on December 18, 2016, 01:03:30 AM
Because I will basically like any piece of crap that has Tolkienesque Dwarves and Elves in it I really enjoyed but trilogies. Obviously LOTR is actually a good set of films as opposed to The Hobbit. But yes I know they have...issues :P
I'm still waiting for my extended versions.  I hope that conversion of the Dwarf leader is less... Anakinesque.
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Valmy

Quote from: viper37 on December 19, 2016, 03:53:51 PM
Quote from: Valmy on December 18, 2016, 01:03:30 AM
Because I will basically like any piece of crap that has Tolkienesque Dwarves and Elves in it I really enjoyed but trilogies. Obviously LOTR is actually a good set of films as opposed to The Hobbit. But yes I know they have...issues :P
I'm still waiting for my extended versions.  I hope that conversion of the Dwarf leader is less... Anakinesque.

Oh I do hope those come out. I bought the extended set of the LOTR films I do think they work better. The theatrical versions just were not long enough.
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viper37

Quote from: Valmy on December 19, 2016, 04:13:32 PM
Quote from: viper37 on December 19, 2016, 03:53:51 PM
Quote from: Valmy on December 18, 2016, 01:03:30 AM
Because I will basically like any piece of crap that has Tolkienesque Dwarves and Elves in it I really enjoyed but trilogies. Obviously LOTR is actually a good set of films as opposed to The Hobbit. But yes I know they have...issues :P
I'm still waiting for my extended versions.  I hope that conversion of the Dwarf leader is less... Anakinesque.

Oh I do hope those come out. I bought the extended set of the LOTR films I do think they work better. The theatrical versions just were not long enough.
They're out now. But sold individually.  At a very steep price.  So I'm waiting.
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grumbler

Quote from: Valmy on December 19, 2016, 04:13:32 PM
Oh I do hope those come out. I bought the extended set of the LOTR films I do think they work better. The theatrical versions just were not long enough.

I think that this is true.  Almost all the bad bits of the films were left in when they were cut, so the average quality suffered.  The visual WOW moments and character development were cut for pacing, and they are the best parts of the movies.
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About the archaeology

Chron in the article is confusing.  Werent Mycenaeans invading Crete around this time not other way around ?
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grumbler

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on December 19, 2016, 09:54:14 PM
About the archaeology

Chron in the article is confusing.  Werent Mycenaeans invading Crete around this time not other way around ?

The switch from Linear A to Linear B is generally set at around 1450 BCE, so, yeah, this guy would have lived around the time of the Mycenaean invasion of Crete.
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jimmy olsen

There's a facial reconstruction of this guy that was written about in the Daily Mail :rolleyes: . I'm skeptical about the utility of the part I bolded. There has been a lot of migration in the last 3,500 years into Greece. I'm not sure how appliacble modern Greek faces are to this.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3839092/The-face-Bronze-Age-fighter-revealed-Scientists-reconstruct-face-Griffin-Warrior-elite-group-3-500-years-ago.html

QuoteAccording to the Dr.Sharon Stocker, the warrior appears to have been a handsome man, with the facial reconstruction having been based on a stamp that was found inside the tomb.

The reconstruction was performed by Tobias Houlton, a specialist in reconstruction, and his colleague Lynne Schepartz of University of the Witwatersrand.

The Manchester method was used for the reconstruction – facial tissues were laid from the skull surface outward by using depth marker pegs to determine the thickness.

And facial features, such as the eyes and mouth, were determined by the underlying skull.

The researchers used average face templates of 50 modern Greek makes that were 25 to 35 years old to reconstruct the eyes and nose.

Artifacts from the Mycenaean and Minoan civilizations were used to determine the Griffin Warrior's skin tone and hair color.

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Valmy

Maybe if they took some Greeks living in the islands. They can be pretty isolated. I am reminded of that story of the Greek Army arriving at an island recently taken from the Turks in the Balkan War in 1912 and the inhabitants insisted they were not themselves Greeks but 'Romans' (in the Byzantine sense).
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