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Question: What happens if Trump doesn't leave?

Started by Razgovory, November 29, 2016, 11:29:09 AM

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Eddie Teach

#105
October 07, 2019, 09:06:29 PM
To be fair, many of the people close to Trump in 2016 have been fired.
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PDH

#106
October 07, 2019, 09:47:09 PM
Quote from: Eddie Teach on October 07, 2019, 09:06:29 PM
To be fair, many of the people close to Trump in 2016 have been fired.

To be fair, the close people then and the close people now are on the same level of retardedness.
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FunkMonk

#107
October 08, 2019, 10:05:05 AM
If Trump doesn't leave, do I still have a job?
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Habbaku

#108
October 08, 2019, 10:11:14 AM
You might have too much of one if he doesn't.
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Tamas

#109
October 08, 2019, 10:22:36 AM
Taking control of a country's military to overturn an election result and maintain your rule forcefully, a country with the longest and most stable democratic traditions, in a space of 4 years, would be an immense undertaking requiring probably one of the greatest stateman of world history, and a concentrated effort and a well laid out long term plan.


The idea that Trump would be able to orchestrate such a thing is laughable.

The Brain

#110
October 08, 2019, 10:26:47 AM
Quote from: Tamas on October 08, 2019, 10:22:36 AM
Taking control of a country's military to overturn an election result and maintain your rule forcefully, a country with the longest and most stable democratic traditions, in a space of 4 years, would be an immense undertaking requiring probably one of the greatest stateman of world history, and a concentrated effort and a well laid out long term plan.


The idea that Trump would be able to orchestrate such a thing is laughable.

:yes: We'll make him chancellor if he gets too uppity. Should slow him down.
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Tamas

#111
October 08, 2019, 10:41:31 AM
 :rolleyes:

Razgovory

#112
October 08, 2019, 10:53:06 AM
Quote from: Tamas on October 08, 2019, 10:22:36 AM
Taking control of a country's military to overturn an election result and maintain your rule forcefully, a country with the longest and most stable democratic traditions, in a space of 4 years, would be an immense undertaking requiring probably one of the greatest stateman of world history, and a concentrated effort and a well laid out long term plan.


The idea that Trump would be able to orchestrate such a thing is laughable.


Well, Trump already controls the military and second I don't think the military needs to do anything at all to help Trump.  Law enforcement is sufficient, and Trump has already broken the Department of Justice and the Department of Homeland Security.  Military officers might balk at an unlawful order, how many cops would?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

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Tamas

#113
October 08, 2019, 11:01:19 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 08, 2019, 10:53:06 AM
Quote from: Tamas on October 08, 2019, 10:22:36 AM
Taking control of a country's military to overturn an election result and maintain your rule forcefully, a country with the longest and most stable democratic traditions, in a space of 4 years, would be an immense undertaking requiring probably one of the greatest stateman of world history, and a concentrated effort and a well laid out long term plan.


The idea that Trump would be able to orchestrate such a thing is laughable.


Well, Trump already controls the military and second I don't think the military needs to do anything at all to help Trump.  Law enforcement is sufficient, and Trump has already broken the Department of Justice and the Department of Homeland Security.  Military officers might balk at an unlawful order, how many cops would?

Calm down. There is literally zero reason for a soldier to willingly push their country into civil war over keeping Trump in power.

There is every chance Trump will make it a spectacle refusing to leave the White House but as explained earlier, legally speaking he won't be President by then. The USA's prestige will be further diminished as he'll be dragged out of the building on live TV, but there won't be military units, or the police, rallying to his aid.

But, if that makes you feel any better, he is going be re-elected.

FunkMonk

#114
October 08, 2019, 11:08:18 AM
I can see Donald saying "Execute Order 66."

My Official Funk Prediction: If Donald loses, he'll have a Twitter meltdown and try to take his supporters to the streets. At which point there will be counter-protests and obviously clashes and injuries and even deaths. Once people start dying after the election is when the GOP will finally fold and dump the Trump.
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grumbler

#115
October 08, 2019, 11:14:56 AM
The idea that Trump can order town cops to seize ballot boxes is laughable.  Town cops work for the mayor, and would be fired if they obeyed the president's order over the mayor's.  There are far too few federal police-type officers, even if they were willing to engage in a coup, to disrupt a US national election protected by local cops.
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Razgovory

#116
October 08, 2019, 12:41:47 PM
Quote from: Tamas on October 08, 2019, 11:01:19 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 08, 2019, 10:53:06 AM
Quote from: Tamas on October 08, 2019, 10:22:36 AM
Taking control of a country's military to overturn an election result and maintain your rule forcefully, a country with the longest and most stable democratic traditions, in a space of 4 years, would be an immense undertaking requiring probably one of the greatest stateman of world history, and a concentrated effort and a well laid out long term plan.


The idea that Trump would be able to orchestrate such a thing is laughable.


Well, Trump already controls the military and second I don't think the military needs to do anything at all to help Trump.  Law enforcement is sufficient, and Trump has already broken the Department of Justice and the Department of Homeland Security.  Military officers might balk at an unlawful order, how many cops would?

Calm down. There is literally zero reason for a soldier to willingly push their country into civil war over keeping Trump in power.

There is every chance Trump will make it a spectacle refusing to leave the White House but as explained earlier, legally speaking he won't be President by then. The USA's prestige will be further diminished as he'll be dragged out of the building on live TV, but there won't be military units, or the police, rallying to his aid.

But, if that makes you feel any better, he is going be re-elected.


Uh, I said military doesn't need to do anything.  We already have an example of municipal police acting inappropriately because they believed it would benefit the President.  We have examples of Federal law enforcement following the orders from Trump that were illegal.  I didn't think Trump could corrupt the Justice Department but it happened.  He has fired or driven out anyone who stood against him.

We believe our system would prevent the abuses that Trump has committed.  It has not.  What makes you think that this situation will change?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Razgovory

#117
October 08, 2019, 12:43:26 PM
Quote from: grumbler on October 08, 2019, 11:14:56 AM
The idea that Trump can order town cops to seize ballot boxes is laughable.  Town cops work for the mayor, and would be fired if they obeyed the president's order over the mayor's.  There are far too few federal police-type officers, even if they were willing to engage in a coup, to disrupt a US national election protected by local cops.


Nobody said that, and mayoral authority differs wildly from place to place.  In none of those places does the police work at the pleasure of the mayor.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Habbaku

#118
October 08, 2019, 01:06:25 PM
I'm looking forward to 15 months from now when I can just post a bunch of roll-eyes emojis at the over-worriers or delete all my posts on Languish criticizing Immortan Trump. Whichever.
The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

Government is an abstract noun meaning the art and process of governing and it should be an offence to write it with a capital G or so as to refer to people.
-J. R. R. Tolkien

crazy canuck

#119
October 08, 2019, 01:08:31 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on October 08, 2019, 01:06:25 PM
I'm looking forward to 15 months when the great and unmatched leader is re-elected].

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