What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

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The Minsky Moment

Quote from: Oexmelin on May 10, 2026, 02:28:20 PMI have said for years that Americans need to get involved way more than simply pinning their hopes on the bygone dynamics of former electoral politics. Hence my exasperation with that sort of message, which often threatens to conflate hope with comfort, apathy, or the illusion of activism that social networks provide. I applaud anyone who argues for relentless political action that would go beyond voting - which, of course doesn't exclude voting. My fear is that you have a lot of your fellow citizens to convince still.

Fair enough, but electoral mobilization and political mobilization are not mutually exclusive.  They complement one another.
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viper37

Quote from: Valmy on May 10, 2026, 01:05:45 PM
Quote from: DGuller on May 10, 2026, 01:01:44 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on May 10, 2026, 12:06:00 PM
Quote from: Oexmelin on May 09, 2026, 06:20:57 PMI am not so sure. Lots of people seemed to continue to pin their hopes on the midterms, with the plan of action being to vote vote vote. And lots of people who were smugly prophesying about the midterms (Buttigieg, for instance) and now seemingly only waking up to the corrupt Supreme Court shenanigans. I often (exasperatedly) watch Heather Richardson's stream: comments on her videos alternate between « give me hope » and « vote vote vote ».

The midterms matter.  And one of the problems we are having in America is a sense of powerlessness and the attitude of resignation. So yes it's important to mobilize voters and convince them it's worth it to vote and convince others to do so.  This is not the time for cool ironic detachment.

Of course the Supreme Court is corrupt, we've known that for years now.  Yes the deck is totally stacked against the Democrats and yes worse is come.  That just means push back harder.  Orbanate these motherfuckers.
I totally agree with the sentiment.  Let the right sow cynicism, that's their most potent weapon to gain power.  Cynicism is an acid that corrodes democracy.  We don't need to help them with that.  If Orban could be voted out, then these jokers in the US can be voted out, but voting is an important part of voting someone out.

Yeah. Everybody needs to show up and vote and keep fighting. I was just responding to the reality that the midterms will not, in fact, fix everything. At least in Hungary one big election win can change everything. Here it take many elections over a sustained period of time at many levels of government.
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Trump says he will send an 'Election Integrity Army' into every state for midterms
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Crazy_Ivan80

So nice of him to make sure tge people vote correctly...  :shutup:   <_<

Norgy

Quote from: Sophie Scholl on May 10, 2026, 12:37:13 AM
Quote from: Oexmelin on May 09, 2026, 06:20:57 PMI am not so sure. Lots of people seemed to continue to pin their hopes on the midterms, with the plan of action being to vote vote vote. And lots of people who were smugly prophesying about the midterms (Buttigieg, for instance) and now seemingly only waking up to the corrupt Supreme Court shenanigans. I often (exasperatedly) watch Heather Richardson's stream: comments on her videos alternate between « give me hope » and « vote vote vote ».
Oh, Hod. My old Sunday School Teacher, who I adore, suggested I give Richardson a watch/listen. I tried. A few times. I find her dreadful. I assume she means well, but I just cannot stomach her views this late in the game.

Haven't listened to her, but I've read some of her work, and she seems very meticulous. She also has a Facebook page where she writes a summary of the decline each day.

Some excellent writers, historians and economists definitely are better in writing.  :lol:

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viper37

Seems the Dems will lose the House.  Unless the USSC reverse the decision, which is doubtful:
https://newrepublic.com/article/210250/trump-virginia-dems-redistricting-war

QuoteBut over the weekend, many Democrats were heartened by an idea, floated by The Downballot, that could potentially save those four seats. The idea was that the Virginia legislature and governor could lower the retirement age of the state Supreme Court judges to remove them, replace them with new judges, and then get the court to rehear the case and decide it in their favor, restoring the lost map.


Yet Surovell insisted in an interview with The New Republic that the plan is unworkable. He cited a May 12 deadline set by the state Department of Elections for having congressional maps entered into the state's election system. That's necessary in order to be prepared for the congressional primaries set for August 1, for which early voting starts in mid-June.
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

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Valmy

Americans need to be babied more? I don't know Dr. Oz, we already seem pretty infantile.
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Valmy

Quote from: viper37 on May 11, 2026, 07:08:59 PMSeems the Dems will lose the House.

Hard to lose what we don't currently have.
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mongers

Quote from: viper37 on May 11, 2026, 07:08:59 PMSeems the Dems will lose the House.  Unless the USSC reverse the decision, which is doubtful:
https://newrepublic.com/article/210250/trump-virginia-dems-redistricting-war


For better clarity, why don't we rename it the TRS -the Trump Rubber Stamp.
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grumbler

Quote from: viper37 on May 11, 2026, 07:08:59 PMSeems the Dems will lose the House.  Unless the USSC reverse the decision, which is doubtful:
https://newrepublic.com/article/210250/trump-virginia-dems-redistricting-war

QuoteBut over the weekend, many Democrats were heartened by an idea, floated by The Downballot, that could potentially save those four seats. The idea was that the Virginia legislature and governor could lower the retirement age of the state Supreme Court judges to remove them, replace them with new judges, and then get the court to rehear the case and decide it in their favor, restoring the lost map.


Yet Surovell insisted in an interview with The New Republic that the plan is unworkable. He cited a May 12 deadline set by the state Department of Elections for having congressional maps entered into the state's election system. That's necessary in order to be prepared for the congressional primaries set for August 1, for which early voting starts in mid-June.


The Democrats were not relying on the Virginia seats to take the House.  Seems the Democrats will take the House.
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HisMajestyBOB

Surovell is a corrupt shit who keeps pushing for a casino here despite no one wanting it. He'll doggedly try to get the casino his donors want by hook or crook, but he doesn't have the backbone to stand up for anything else.
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Tonitrus

Quote from: grumbler on May 11, 2026, 08:02:41 PM
Quote from: viper37 on May 11, 2026, 07:08:59 PMSeems the Dems will lose the House.  Unless the USSC reverse the decision, which is doubtful:
https://newrepublic.com/article/210250/trump-virginia-dems-redistricting-war

QuoteBut over the weekend, many Democrats were heartened by an idea, floated by The Downballot, that could potentially save those four seats. The idea was that the Virginia legislature and governor could lower the retirement age of the state Supreme Court judges to remove them, replace them with new judges, and then get the court to rehear the case and decide it in their favor, restoring the lost map.


Yet Surovell insisted in an interview with The New Republic that the plan is unworkable. He cited a May 12 deadline set by the state Department of Elections for having congressional maps entered into the state's election system. That's necessary in order to be prepared for the congressional primaries set for August 1, for which early voting starts in mid-June.


The Democrats were not relying on the Virginia seats to take the House.  Seems the Democrats will take the House.

Agree, House control doesn't necessarily hinge on this one state.  Lots of moving pieces though...so of course it might be if they somehow miss it by a few seats, lots of pundits might point back to this case.  And in Virginia, the vote being overturned by the Virgina SC was predicted almost immediately afterward.

The fallout from the Voting Rights Act decision will/could do a lot more damage to the chances than this once case.

The Minsky Moment

No rate cut for Donald this year, unless he utterly crushes the Fed.
We have, accordingly, always had plenty of excellent lawyers, though we often had to do without even tolerable administrators, and seen destined to endure the inconvenience of hereafter doing without any constructive statesmen at all.
--Woodrow Wilson

crazy canuck

I had to laugh.  No rate cute, he's done for now!

You guys are still acting like you live in a functioning democracy.
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