What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[Syt]

With people wanting to look into the specifics of his Ballroom project he's now declared the tearing down of the East Wing and the new construction "a matter of national security." 

[Syt]

Successively banning everyone from his "shithole" list, I guess.

[Zanza]

With the new entry rules where you have to provide lots of private information about yourself and family including DNA, he will also reduce travel from the rest of the world. Isolationism.

[Syt]

I had missed the DNA bit

[Maladict]

I had missed the DNA bit

Yeah me too. My ESTA is still good for a year or so, hopefully the midterms will put a stop to some of this nonsense

[Syt]

From https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2025/12/10/2025-22461/agency-information-collection-activities-revision-arrival-and-departure-record-form-i-94-and:

4.

High Value Data Elements:

To comply with the January 2025 E.O. (14161), and the April 4, 2025, Memorandum Updating All Forms to Collect Baseline Biographic Data, CBP will add several "high value data fields" to the ESTA application, when feasible. This is in addition to the information already collected in the ESTA application.

The high value data fields include:

a. Telephone numbers used in the last five years;

b. Email addresses used in the last ten years;

c. IP addresses and metadata from electronically submitted photos;

d. Family member names (parents, spouse, siblings, children);

e. Family number telephone numbers used in the last five years;

f. Family member dates of birth;

g. Family member places of birth;

h. Family member residencies;

i. Biometrics—face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris;

j. Business telephone numbers used in the last five years;

k. Business email addresses used in the last ten years.

My Indian coworker: "Yeah, except DNA we already have to that."

Not sure what the point of a visa waiver is, then, tbh. If this is implemented I hope for reciprocity by European countries.

[HisMajestyBOB]

I had missed the DNA bit

Yeah me too. My ESTA is still good for a year or so, hopefully the midterms will put a stop to some of this nonsense

In 2029, after a long shutdown fight, the Democrat majority in Congress and the Trump administration agree to a compromise bill that, among other things, allows the Trump administration to keep collecting DNA samples from visitors, but they have to promise to delete the data after one year.

[Richard Hakluyt]

I guess the USA will still get the sort of tourists who like to visit places like North Korea or Burma. I couldn't be arsed to fill out all that stuff just for 10 days in the States and that is ignoring any privacy concerns.

[Josquius]

Wonder where the UN got to with talk of moving.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

Might as well travel to China then

[Jacob]

Might as well travel to China then

Citizens of most Schengen area countries can enter China visa free for stays of 30 days or less. The information required for their ESTA equivalent is significantly less onerous than the new US requirements. The visa application for China - at least for Europeans and Canadians, in my experience - similarly requires less information than what's outlined for the ESTA in the post upthread.

[The Brain]

Why would you travel to the US?

[crazy canuck]

Why would you travel to the US?

Some people have family members who live there

[HisMajestyBOB]

Why would you travel to the US?

Where else can you get deep-fried Twinkies?

[Valmy]

Why would you travel to the US?

Maybe they have a masochistic or humiliation fetish?