What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[dist]

Maybe, just saying, Americans should wake up too & start protesting like it's 1968.

Totally. I keep being surprised by the dissonance that exists between the discourses of non-brainwashed Americans that keep dunking on Democrats for not opposing and stopping Trump & Co, while most of them do not seem ready to do anything themselves. Clearly, the system of checks and balances is broken, and being tested so it breaks, and there is no reason to hope that actions taken within its scope will stop the ongoing madness.

Pressure also needs to be applied from all parts of society, from the street, if anything needs to change. It's not time for the comfort of "they will solve this for me".

A large pushback will only encourage others to act and voice their concern. And that is at the moment, I think, one of the way to perhaps get anti-trump GOP figures to become relevant and rise to prominence. For the discontent to break through the walls of partisan propaganda.

At least, hopefully, theoretically. Writing this makes me feel like a damn optimistic fool.

[The Minsky Moment]

CC if it came to that and Canadians were sufficiently motivated they could maintain an effective insurgency indefinitely. Too much area to garrison effectively and American grunts have zero motivation to oppress Canadians.  No domestic support or interest in such an asinine project.

[Valmy]

Totally. I keep being surprised by the dissonance that exists between the discourses of non-brainwashed Americans that keep dunking on Democrats for not opposing and stopping Trump & Co, while most of them do not seem ready to do anything themselves.

We're ready but we need leadership and organization. There is an army ready for political battle, but no generals.

That is the problem. And we are caught a little by surprise because back in 2017 there was an elite led resistance, but this time they seem defeated and ready to lay down.

[viper37]

Will European Nato countries go to war against the US when it invades Canada, with an unsecured flank in the East?

I expect the US situation to degenerate into civil war.

[viper37]

Will European Nato countries go to war against the US when it invades Canada, with an unsecured flank in the East?

My expectation is "no". I'm no expert, but I believe that European NATO countries have neither the forces nor logistics to do much other than perhaps tell American forces to leave European soil.

That said, I would hope for a robust if clandestine funnel of European made advanced weaponry to Canadian guerillas (and any American rebels), though.

France has sent a nuclear sub to Halifax to make a statement.

That's more than the UK so far.

[HVC]

CC if it came to that and Canadians were sufficiently motivated they could maintain an effective insurgency indefinitely. Too much area to garrison effectively and American grunts have zero motivation to oppress Canadians.  No domestic support or interest in such an asinine project.

You say that, but how many grunts are MAGA? I mean how much animosity did soldiers have against the viets and they oppressed them just fine. Serious question, did America have a grudge against Vietnam? I mean the elites hated the communists, but the actual viet people? Soldiers are soldiers, and have always been soldiers. Get shot at a few times and the good will dries up fast.

Whether they'd successfully crush a uprising is another story.

[crazy canuck]

CC if it came to that and Canadians were sufficiently motivated they could maintain an effective insurgency indefinitely. Too much area to garrison effectively and American grunts have zero motivation to oppress Canadians.  No domestic support or interest in such an asinine project.

Yeah, that is true.  There would always be the hinterland.  But the vast majority of Canadians live within spitting distance of the border (and most even below the 49th parallel). Almost all of those folks have no idea how to survive in the wilds outside urban areas.

And then there is the reality that a significant number of the people who do have those skills are part of the 10% that think it is a great idea to be annexed. 

So, while in theory there could be a counter insurgency. It's not probable.

[dist]

That is the problem. And we are caught a little by surprise because back in 2017 there was an elite led resistance, but this time they seem defeated and ready to lay down.

I read a piece sometime ago that explained that it was because the usual generals had expanded their energy into the last minute Kamala campaign and weren't ready for the oncoming onslaught. At least, that was the tldr. I forgot the specifics.

And there are people organizing, just need to find them and linked with them. But it's definitely less than in 2017, and still without a unified front. The difference is very striking even from here.

[Syt]

CC if it came to that and Canadians were sufficiently motivated they could maintain an effective insurgency indefinitely. Too much area to garrison effectively and American grunts have zero motivation to oppress Canadians.  No domestic support or interest in such an asinine project.

And unlike, say, Afghanistan, insurgents will find it A LOT easier to blend in with the oppressors.

[Neil]

That's a fair point.  Self-defence skills an weapons have been considered a bit of a dividing line, areas where the Liberal government has looked to crack down on.  Many people who are most excited about getting a chance to use their tacti-cool gear are those who are buying what Trump is selling. 

[HVC]

CC if it came to that and Canadians were sufficiently motivated they could maintain an effective insurgency indefinitely. Too much area to garrison effectively and American grunts have zero motivation to oppress Canadians.  No domestic support or interest in such an asinine project.

And unlike, say, Afghanistan, insurgents will find it A LOT easier to blend in with the oppressors.

And if it gets to that point it'll be a lot easier to strike the heart of America as an insurgent

[HVC]

And unlike Grey fox I don't think an invasion will come. I personally think he'll fuck up north americas economy and then die on the shiter before his term is up. Whether the next wave of American conservatives keep up the insanity or go back, I don't know. He's fucking with Mexico too, but isn't calling them the 52nd state. He's doing that to Canada because he likes to be a dick and found a trigger.

[viper37]

Trump has backed down on his 50% steel & aluminum tariffs, so Ford has back down on his electricity export tariffs.  They're supposed to meet on March 13th.

[HVC]

Trump has backed down on his 50% steel & aluminum tariffs, so Ford has back down on his electricity export tariffs.  They're supposed to meet on March 13th.

Still keep on the original 25% so Ford blinked first?

[The Brain]

The US is doing what it perceives to be in its best interest. The perception may be insane, but that's neither here nor there.