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What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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alfred russel

Quote from: Barrister on January 08, 2021, 04:47:25 PM
Quote from: Solmyr on January 08, 2021, 04:45:21 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on January 08, 2021, 12:05:47 PM
I think there is a question whether National Guard was actually needed. A few thousand of the most ridiculous losers in the country--who were apparently mostly unarmed--apparently walked into the capitol building without a shot fired to stop them. The officer who was killed apparently was hit in the head with a fire extinguisher that was in the building.

Except there were also professional soldiers with weapons and zip ties there, hunting the VP and members of congress. It wasn't all just MAGA Pepe incels.

Responding more to AR:

You don't want shots fired to protect a building.  But a bunch of National Guard troopers would have been more likely to help keep this mess out of the capitol building in the first place.

It isn't just about "protecting a building". All 535 elected federal representatives were in there, plus the vice president. It is about protecting them and their ability to conduct the people's business.
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle.

I'm embarrassed. I've been making the mistake of associating with you. It won't happen again. :)
-garbon, February 23, 2014

Solmyr

https://twitter.com/boo2600/status/1347338908661637121?s=20

Quote"Video surfaces of Trump, Ivanka, Don, Eric, Kim Guilfoyle and Chief of Staff Meadows in a celebratory mood shortly before Trump incited an insurrection against the U.S. government. Guilfoyle is heard urging Trumpists to "fight" for Trump."..

The Larch

What a difference a day makes...

QuoteRIOTER ARRESTED FOR TAKING OVER PELOSI'S OFFICE



Feds have arrested the guy they believe is the Capitol rioter who was photographed sitting at Nancy Pelosi's desk during the failed coup ... TMZ has confirmed.



Federal law enforcement sources tell TMZ ... feds arrested Richard Barnett in Arkansas and charged him with entering and remaining on restricting grounds, violent entry and theft of public property. Barnett is believed to be the guy who was photographed inside the House Speaker's office ... with his feet kicked up. He also seems to be the guy taking a selfie with Pelosi's mail and also left a note that read, "We will not back down."

Barrister

Quote from: alfred russel on January 08, 2021, 05:25:41 PM
Quote from: Barrister on January 08, 2021, 04:47:25 PM
Quote from: Solmyr on January 08, 2021, 04:45:21 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on January 08, 2021, 12:05:47 PM
I think there is a question whether National Guard was actually needed. A few thousand of the most ridiculous losers in the country--who were apparently mostly unarmed--apparently walked into the capitol building without a shot fired to stop them. The officer who was killed apparently was hit in the head with a fire extinguisher that was in the building.

Except there were also professional soldiers with weapons and zip ties there, hunting the VP and members of congress. It wasn't all just MAGA Pepe incels.

Responding more to AR:

You don't want shots fired to protect a building.  But a bunch of National Guard troopers would have been more likely to help keep this mess out of the capitol building in the first place.

It isn't just about "protecting a building". All 535 elected federal representatives were in there, plus the vice president. It is about protecting them and their ability to conduct the people's business.

And the Capitol Police seemed to do an excellent job protecting them. :)
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crazy canuck

#30304
Quote from: DGuller on January 08, 2021, 03:32:17 PM
Huh, am I not understanding some lawyer stuff?  Ben Sasse is relaying what Trump staffer told him.  That's just plain vanilla hearsay, I assume the Trump staffer didn't read about Trump's reaction in Vox, but rather witnessed it personally.  Where do the other 3-4 levels of hearsay come in?  We can hear what Sasse is saying directly, so I don't see any more hearsay here.  What am I missing?

You got it right, BB is going full blown apologist.

Quote from: Barrister on January 08, 2021, 05:40:42 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on January 08, 2021, 05:25:41 PM
Quote from: Barrister on January 08, 2021, 04:47:25 PM
Quote from: Solmyr on January 08, 2021, 04:45:21 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on January 08, 2021, 12:05:47 PM
I think there is a question whether National Guard was actually needed. A few thousand of the most ridiculous losers in the country--who were apparently mostly unarmed--apparently walked into the capitol building without a shot fired to stop them. The officer who was killed apparently was hit in the head with a fire extinguisher that was in the building.

Except there were also professional soldiers with weapons and zip ties there, hunting the VP and members of congress. It wasn't all just MAGA Pepe incels.

Responding more to AR:

You don't want shots fired to protect a building.  But a bunch of National Guard troopers would have been more likely to help keep this mess out of the capitol building in the first place.

It isn't just about "protecting a building". All 535 elected federal representatives were in there, plus the vice president. It is about protecting them and their ability to conduct the people's business.

And the Capitol Police seemed to do an excellent job protecting them. :)

I would hate to see what your version of doing an average job looks like.

The Larch


The Larch

Twitter has suspended Trump's account permanently.

QuoteAfter close review of recent Tweets from the @realDonaldTrump  account and the context around them we have permanently suspended the account due to the risk of further incitement of violence.

Grey Fox

Colonel Caliga is Awesome.

Valmy

Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

grumbler

Quote from: Barrister on January 08, 2021, 04:47:25 PM
Responding more to AR:

You don't want shots fired to protect a building.  But a bunch of National Guard troopers would have been more likely to help keep this mess out of the capitol building in the first place.

Two things dampen enthusiasm very quickly:
1.  Hearing the pump action of a shotgun in the dark
2.  Hearing a military unit facing you receive the order "fix bayonets."
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

Bayraktar!

Valmy

Quote from: The Larch on January 08, 2021, 06:31:43 PM
Twitter has suspended Trump's account permanently.

QuoteAfter close review of recent Tweets from the @realDonaldTrump  account and the context around them we have permanently suspended the account due to the risk of further incitement of violence.

I don't know how to feel about that.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

grumbler

Quote from: Valmy on January 08, 2021, 07:01:01 PM
Quote from: The Larch on January 08, 2021, 06:31:43 PM
Twitter has suspended Trump's account permanently.

QuoteAfter close review of recent Tweets from the @realDonaldTrump  account and the context around them we have permanently suspended the account due to the risk of further incitement of violence.

I don't know how to feel about that.

they need to make sure that their legal butt is covered.
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

Bayraktar!

alfred russel

This was a clever thing I just read: if Trump is removed, then Pence could resign on 1/19 to make Pelosi the first female president and also vacate her house seat.  :hmm:
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle.

I'm embarrassed. I've been making the mistake of associating with you. It won't happen again. :)
-garbon, February 23, 2014

FunkMonk

Twitter banned Trump lmao

We should invite him here
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