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Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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Barrister

I didn't think I was doubting what Sasse said.  I just thought he was repeating what the media had said, and wondered how that was newsworthy.

If Sasse had those conversations first-hand then it is regular-old hearsay.
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Syt on January 08, 2021, 03:10:14 PM
https://www.vox.com/2021/1/8/22220840/sasse-trump-capitol-storming-impeachment

QuoteRepublican senator: White House aides say Trump was "delighted" as Capitol was stormed

Sen. Ben Sasse said that, according to senior White House officials, Trump was "confused" why others weren't as excited.

How did President Donald Trump react to the chaotic scene in which his supporters stormed the Capitol as Congress was preparing to formally approve President-elect Joe Biden's win — a scene that eventually left five people dead?

One Republican senator who says he's been in touch with senior White House aides about the matter claims the president was "delighted."

"I don't have any idea what was in his heart about what he wanted to happen once they were in the Capitol, but he wanted there to be chaos," Sen. Ben Sasse (R-NE) said, during an interview with conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt Friday morning.

"And I'm sure you've also had conversations with other senior White House officials, as I have," Sasse continued. "As this was unfolding on television, Donald Trump was walking around the White House confused about why other people on his team weren't as excited as he was as you had rioters pushing against Capitol Police trying to get into the building."


Sasse added: "He was delighted."

This account generally coincides with other reporting, sourced to anonymous White House aides, about how Trump responded to his supporters' actions, and why he took so long to tell them to "go home." (Though an adviser who spoke to New York magazine's Olivia Nuzzi said that Trump disliked the optics of the mob, viewing them as "low class.")

In a separate interview on CBS Friday, Sasse became the first Republican senator to say that he would "consider" voting to remove President Trump from office if House Democrats impeached him — though he didn't fully commit to doing so. (House Democrats seem increasingly likely to impeach Trump for a second time and may do so next week.)

When Hewitt asked about impeachment, Sasse said there was a very important issue he wanted to get to the bottom of: why the National Guard wasn't deployed more quickly to help restore order.

"That's what I've been working on last night and this morning. I want to understand more about why the National Guard wasn't deployed when there had been clear calls for it, and then why that delay happened. So there are more things that I need to understand before I get to a conclusory judgment about that," Sasse said. "But I think that the question of, 'Was the president derelict in his duty,' that's not an open question. He was."

Sasse, who criticized Trump frequently during the 2016 campaign, stayed mostly quiet about the criticisms he had for most of Trump's presidency. But in recent months he's scathingly rebutted Trump's efforts to overturn the results of the election, calling them a "loaded gun" pointed "at the heart of legitimate self-government." Those words proved prophetic as Trump supporters egged on by the president's lies and conspiracy theories forced their way into the Capitol Wednesday.


Full transcript: https://hughhewitt.com/senator-ben-sasse-on-impeachment-and-transition-the-gop-in-minority/

I would love to know how and why he pivoted from there to unconditional surrender in the course of a few hours.

Barrister

#30272
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 08, 2021, 03:39:24 PM
I would love to know how and why he pivoted from there to unconditional surrender in the course of a few hours.

Because he's a coward and a kind and sensitive person.

Edit: Dammit - I forgot that word was censored.
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

The Larch

Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 08, 2021, 03:39:24 PM
Quote from: Syt on January 08, 2021, 03:10:14 PM
https://www.vox.com/2021/1/8/22220840/sasse-trump-capitol-storming-impeachment

QuoteRepublican senator: White House aides say Trump was "delighted" as Capitol was stormed

Sen. Ben Sasse said that, according to senior White House officials, Trump was "confused" why others weren't as excited.

How did President Donald Trump react to the chaotic scene in which his supporters stormed the Capitol as Congress was preparing to formally approve President-elect Joe Biden's win — a scene that eventually left five people dead?

One Republican senator who says he's been in touch with senior White House aides about the matter claims the president was "delighted."

"I don't have any idea what was in his heart about what he wanted to happen once they were in the Capitol, but he wanted there to be chaos," Sen. Ben Sasse (R-NE) said, during an interview with conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt Friday morning.

"And I'm sure you've also had conversations with other senior White House officials, as I have," Sasse continued. "As this was unfolding on television, Donald Trump was walking around the White House confused about why other people on his team weren't as excited as he was as you had rioters pushing against Capitol Police trying to get into the building."


Sasse added: "He was delighted."

This account generally coincides with other reporting, sourced to anonymous White House aides, about how Trump responded to his supporters' actions, and why he took so long to tell them to "go home." (Though an adviser who spoke to New York magazine's Olivia Nuzzi said that Trump disliked the optics of the mob, viewing them as "low class.")

In a separate interview on CBS Friday, Sasse became the first Republican senator to say that he would "consider" voting to remove President Trump from office if House Democrats impeached him — though he didn't fully commit to doing so. (House Democrats seem increasingly likely to impeach Trump for a second time and may do so next week.)

When Hewitt asked about impeachment, Sasse said there was a very important issue he wanted to get to the bottom of: why the National Guard wasn't deployed more quickly to help restore order.

"That's what I've been working on last night and this morning. I want to understand more about why the National Guard wasn't deployed when there had been clear calls for it, and then why that delay happened. So there are more things that I need to understand before I get to a conclusory judgment about that," Sasse said. "But I think that the question of, 'Was the president derelict in his duty,' that's not an open question. He was."

Sasse, who criticized Trump frequently during the 2016 campaign, stayed mostly quiet about the criticisms he had for most of Trump's presidency. But in recent months he's scathingly rebutted Trump's efforts to overturn the results of the election, calling them a "loaded gun" pointed "at the heart of legitimate self-government." Those words proved prophetic as Trump supporters egged on by the president's lies and conspiracy theories forced their way into the Capitol Wednesday.


Full transcript: https://hughhewitt.com/senator-ben-sasse-on-impeachment-and-transition-the-gop-in-minority/

I would love to know how and why he pivoted from there to unconditional surrender in the course of a few hours.

He really needed his Twitter fix?

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Barrister on January 08, 2021, 03:37:28 PM
I didn't think I was doubting what Sasse said.  I just thought he was repeating what the media had said, and wondered how that was newsworthy.

If Sasse had those conversations first-hand then it is regular-old hearsay.

Dude, it's right in the headline and first four lines.


The Larch

Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 08, 2021, 03:46:00 PM
Quote from: The Larch on January 08, 2021, 03:42:27 PM
He really needed his Twitter fix?

:lol:

You laugh, but it's the only thing that seems to have had any effect in him.  :P

Caliga

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Admiral Yi

Quote from: The Larch on January 08, 2021, 03:46:51 PM
You laugh, but it's the only thing that seems to have had any effect in him.  :P

I was laughing with , not at.  Now you're killing your excellent joke.  :(

The Larch

Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 08, 2021, 03:51:50 PM
Quote from: The Larch on January 08, 2021, 03:46:51 PM
You laugh, but it's the only thing that seems to have had any effect in him.  :P

I was laughing with , not at.  Now you're killing your excellent joke.  :(

It was not a joke.  :huh: It's quite ironic, but it can really have had an effect.

Syt

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Duque de Bragança

Quote from: Syt on January 08, 2021, 04:00:30 PM


The guy pointing the finger is Jon Schaffer, bandleader of metal band Iced Earth. He's now wanted by the FBI.

https://www.loudersound.com/amp/news/iced-earths-jon-schaffer-was-among-the-angry-mob-storming-the-us-capitol

Just saw that as well. A great band, at least it used to be. I would have been less surprised, if it were Ted Nugent (too old ?) or even Dave Mustaine (moderate now relatively speaking).

Syt

According to the article he seems to have been nuts for a while.
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

HVC

Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 08, 2021, 03:46:00 PM
Quote from: The Larch on January 08, 2021, 03:42:27 PM
He really needed his Twitter fix?

:lol:

he needs it i keep feeling good about himself. they cut his source and he wanted his fix.
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Habbaku

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