What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[DGuller]

Apparently the House GOPers haven't seen the light as clearly as Senate GOPers, 121 of them still proceeded with their nonsense.  Oh, well.

[Admiral Yi]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHhxUMdwZO4

Hawley is a lot smarter than I would have figured.  Clever rehetorical point that political violence is wrong, which is why  it is important to have this legal means of objecting to the election process.

[katmai]

He's a Stanford grad, and went to Yale law. Which makes him more vile.

[DGuller]

So they're deliberately spoiling all the objections after Arizona, aren't they?  Oh, well, let's just get this spectacle over with, Pence has some other things to do tonight.

[DGuller]

Never mind, we go full retard again for PA. 

[katmai]

You had to jinx it didn't you DG.

[Sheilbh]

I wouldn't get your hopes up.

McConnell seems like a guy who knows where all the bodies are buried.

Also he's been an effective Minority Leader and Majority Leader, hasn't he? Probably tied to the fact he knows where the bodies are buried.

In terms of his comments, I think better late than never may depend on what happens next. Does it mark an inflection point for McConnell and the GOP?

Hmm, interesting to see a giant mob of rioters storm the national parliament while it's in session in yet another banana republic.

During the transition of power to the opposition, regime security forces melted away while the regime-supporting mob stormed the national legislature. It is literally step 1 of a coup

I'm not sure why a similar principal isn't in pace for the capitol building in a situation like this: maybe it is because we've had a few presidents assassinated but we don't have a history of folks taking out chunks of congressmen at a time. Maybe we will have just very different levels of security until something really bad happens.

Yeah - the comparison I was thinking was an airport because I think it would be more difficult to storm and occupy the secure bits of an airport than Congress today.

It's almost as if one needs to consider the context before judging some actions. 

Quite. There have been months long protests in Belarus against election fraud. There have also been repeated protests in the US against "election fraud". There's a difference.

Hawley is a lot smarter than I would have figured.  Clever rehetorical point that political violence is wrong, which is why  it is important to have this legal means of objecting to the election process.

He's canny. I think he's also got a lot more charisma than Cotton and is likely to be the populist right candidate (assuming the Trumps don't run).

Apparently the House GOPers haven't seen the light as clearly as Senate GOPers, 121 of them still proceeded with their nonsense.  Oh, well.

Out of 197 Reps

[The Minsky Moment]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHhxUMdwZO4

Hawley is a lot smarter than I would have figured.  Clever rehetorical point that political violence is wrong, which is why  it is important to have this legal means of objecting to the election process.

No that is a completely insane point.  The election process is set by the constitution; there can be no means to object to the "election process". That is objecting to the American system of government.

There are legal means to address alleged election irregularities - Trump and his legal goon squad just spent  the last two months using and leveraging every one of those legal means and a  bunch of illegal ones as well.

The law on the Congressional count is clear and unequivocal. If a state certified its electors by the safe harbor deadline, Congress MUST accept it.  There is no legal basis to object, Hawley and the objectors are knowingly violating the law and abetting in a Presidential conspiracy to seize power. 

[The Minsky Moment]

Never mind, we go full retard again for PA. 

Hawley again.

[Sophie Scholl]

One of my fears about today's actions is that draconian "anti riot and protest" laws will be passed in a kneejerk reaction a la the massive security measures put in place post 9/11.

[Admiral Yi]

No that is a completely insane point.  The election process is set by the constitution; there can be no means to object to the "election process". That is objecting to the American system of government.

There are legal means to address alleged election irregularities - Trump and his legal goon squad just spent  the last two months using and leveraging every one of those legal means and a  bunch of illegal ones as well.

The law on the Congressional count is clear and unequivocal. If a state certified its electors by the safe harbor deadline, Congress MUST accept it.  There is no legal basis to object, Hawley and the objectors are knowingly violating the law and abetting in a Presidential conspiracy to seize power.

First, I didn't say I agreed with him on the merits, I said it was clever rhetoric.  He disassociated objecting in Congress from mob violence.

Second, he wasn't objecting to the Congressional count, he was objecting to Pennsylvania mail ins.  And of course there is legal basis to object to state procedures.  Literacy tests is an obvious example.  So is Al Gore objecting to the way in which Florida scanned its chads.

[The Minsky Moment]

He's canny. I think he's also got a lot more charisma than Cotton and is likely to be the populist right candidate (assuming the Trumps don't run).

If justice is properly done, then he should be the populist right candidate for prisoner rep at USP Leavenworth.

[The Minsky Moment]

Second, he wasn't objecting to the Congressional count, he was objecting to Pennsylvania mail ins.  And of course there is legal basis to object to state procedures.  Literacy tests is an obvious example.  So is Al Gore objecting to the way in which Florida scanned its chads.

There is a legal basis to object to state procedures.  There is no legal basis to do by raising an objection at a Joint Session to count electoral votes.  Precisely because Hawley is smart and knows the law, and not some knuckle-dragging submoron like Gohmert, he has no excuse.

[Eddie Teach]

He's canny. I think he's also got a lot more charisma than Cotton and is likely to be the populist right candidate (assuming the Trumps don't run).

If justice is properly done, then he should be the populist right candidate for prisoner rep at USP Leavenworth.

What did he do?

[Admiral Yi]

There is a legal basis to object to state procedures.  There is no legal basis to do by raising an objection at a Joint Session to count electoral votes.  Precisely because Hawley is smart and knows the law, and not some knuckle-dragging submoron like Gohmert, he has no excuse.

Are the things Senators and Congressmen can object to during the count circumscribed by law?  All I know is the the procedure for objecting.  Educate me.