What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[Valmy]

I like how they just file out without anything happening to them.

With Fox News and company declaring all these fine people ANTIFA double-agents I am sure they will be overjoyed if they are prosecuted.

[Tamas]

I like how they just file out without anything happening to them.

I really don't understand what's the deal with that.

[The Brain]

I like how they just file out without anything happening to them.

I really don't understand what's the deal with that.

Orders to protect their own.

[Syt]

German economics minister Altmaier praised McConnell's speech as great.

https://twitter.com/peteraltmaier/status/1346903147529310216

Was für eine großartige Rede: staatsmännisch, klar & mutig: Senator McConnel war 4 Jahre loyal zu Trump. Doch jetzt stellt er sich ohne wenn und aber auf die Seite von Demokratie & Recht.

"What a great speech: statesmanlike, clear, and brave: Senator McConnel [sic] was loyal to Trump for 4 years. But now he sides without ifs or buts with democracy and law."

[Sheilbh]

I like how they just file out without anything happening to them.

I really don't understand what's the deal with that.

Being generous - let an irate crowd leave the building they've occupied safe in the knowledge you've got CCTV and copious footage to arrest them? Is your goal to get the situation (and Congress) back under your control reasonably calmly - not least because Congress needs to meet to fulfil its constitutional role - or to try and arrest everyone on the site by effectively kettling them in Congress (because you couldn't even kettle them off-site without people realising due to social media/phones)?

I can see there being a reasonable police reason  not to arrest them on the spot - but, of course, I query if that would be extended to everyone. On the other hand I can definitely see a good reason to say that getting Congress back sitting and accepting the EC votes is probably the number 1 priority.

[The Brain]

I like how they just file out without anything happening to them.

I really don't understand what's the deal with that.

Being generous - let an irate crowd leave the building they've occupied safe in the knowledge you've got CCTV and copious footage to arrest them? Is your goal to get the situation (and Congress) back under your control reasonably calmly - not least because Congress needs to meet to fulfil its constitutional role - or to try and arrest everyone on the site by effectively kettling them in Congress (because you couldn't even kettle them off-site without people realising due to social media/phones)?

I can see there being a reasonable police reason  not to arrest them on the spot - but, of course, I query if that would be extended to everyone. On the other hand I can definitely see a good reason to say that getting Congress back sitting and accepting the EC votes is probably the number 1 priority.

AFAIK the Senate could have done their job at a secure location, it doesn't have to be in the Capitol building. It's not like their work would just come to a halt if say the Capitol burned down.

[Tonitrus]

I like how they just file out without anything happening to them.

With Fox News and company declaring all these fine people ANTIFA double-agents I am sure they will be overjoyed if they are prosecuted.

At risk of being fair(?) to Fox News, I haven't seen the antifa-spin line on their site yet.  Even the front page headline on it still says:

4 dead, 52 arrested after pro-Trump supporters storm Capitol

[Valmy]

At risk of being fair(?) to Fox News, I haven't seen the antifa-spin line on their site yet.  Even the front page headline on it still says:

True it is just certain hosts of their shows pushing that, rather than the network as a whole. Good point.

[Syt]

I can see there being a reasonable police reason  not to arrest them on the spot - but, of course, I query if that would be extended to everyone

It wasn't. Hundreds were arrested during Bret Kavanaugh's hearings in or around the Capitol.

Or disabled people who protested cuts to medicaid:

[Tonitrus]

At risk of being fair(?) to Fox News, I haven't seen the antifa-spin line on their site yet.  Even the front page headline on it still says:

True it is just certain hosts of their shows pushing that, rather than the network as a whole. Good point.

It's also still early yet...they will have plenty of time to conform their message to whatever they think will cover their asses best in the coming days.

[The Larch]

Rudy keeps hoarding Ls.

Rudy Giuliani accidentally leaves voicemail for wrong senator while trying to slow vote certification

Even after a mob takeover of the United States Capitol by Donald Trump supporter extremists, Rudy Giuliani is still trying to subvert the will of the people. While members of Congress remained barricaded in their offices or in undisclosed locations underneath the Capitol, Donald Trump's lawyer was calling senators and begging them to slow down the electoral vote certification. One of the senators Giuliani was hoping to get in on the scheme was the newly sworn-in Republican Senator from Alabama, Tommy Tuberville. But there was a problem. Giuliani didn't call Tuberville. He accidentally left a voicemail for another senator, a senator who is remaining anonymous but took it upon themselves to send the audio of the call to The Dispatch.

Here's what Giuliani had to say.

Senator Tuberville? Or I should say Coach Tuberville. This is Rudy Giuliani, the president's lawyer. I'm calling you because I want to discuss with you how they're trying to rush this hearing and how we need you, our Republican friends, to try to just slow it down so we can get these legislatures to get more information to you. And I know they're reconvening at 8 tonight, but it ... the only strategy we can follow is to object to numerous states and raise issues so that we get ourselves into tomorrow—ideally until the end of tomorrow.

I know McConnell is doing everything he can to rush it, which is kind of a kick in the head because it's one thing to oppose us, it's another thing not to give us a fair opportunity to contest it. And he wants to try to get it down to only three states that we contest. But there are 10 states that we contest, not three. So if you could object to every state and, along with a congressman, get a hearing for every state, I know we would delay you a lot, but it would give us the opportunity to get the legislators who are very, very close to pulling their vote, particularly after what McConnell did today. It angered them, because they have written letters asking that you guys adjourn and send them back the questionable ones and they'll fix them up.

So, this phone number, I'm available on all night, and it would be an honor to talk to you. Thank you.

Not just because Giuliani got his numbers mixed up, Congress moved forward quickly Wednesday evening working toward certifying the electoral college votes and officially declaring Joe Biden and Kamala Harris as the next president and vice president.

[Sheilbh]

AFAIK the Senate could have done their job at a secure location, it doesn't have to be in the Capitol building. It's not like their work would just come to a halt if say the Capitol burned down.

Yeah to be honest I wasn't sure about that. Is Congress where Congress chooses to sit or are there some sort of formalities around it - I have no idea.

[Syt]

[Syt]

https://twitter.com/DanScavino/status/1347103015493361664?s=20

Statement by President Donald J. Trump on the Electoral Certification:

"Even though I totally disagree with the outcome of the election, and the facts bear me out, nevertheless there will be an orderly transition on January 20th. I have always said we would continue our...

...fight to ensure that only legal votes were counted. While this represents the end of the greatest first term in presidential history, it's only the beginning of our fight to Make America Great Again!"

[Sheilbh]

It does make you wonder what could have happened if they were properly organised/had any awareness of police tactics (I saw lots of footage of these guys once they were on the streets just blindly walking into kettles).

As with the pipe bombs they planted and with Trump's presidency in general we have been sadly/worryingly reliant on incompetence.