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Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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celedhring

I just think that there's a difference in enjoying an artists' works despite their politics, and liking a *work* despite the politics in it. I'm not saying that you shouldn't, but for example I can't put up with the Allen creepy old man movies while I have no issue with his other classics.

Sheilbh

Quote from: celedhring on September 14, 2020, 05:35:25 AM
I just think that there's a difference in enjoying an artists' works despite their politics, and liking a *work* despite the politics in it. I'm not saying that you shouldn't, but for example I can't put up with the Allen creepy old man movies while I have no issue with his other classics.
Although it is alarming how many of his classics already involve creepy old man themes :lol: :ph34r:
Let's bomb Russia!

The Larch

Quote from: Sheilbh on September 14, 2020, 05:36:15 AM
Quote from: celedhring on September 14, 2020, 05:35:25 AM
I just think that there's a difference in enjoying an artists' works despite their politics, and liking a *work* despite the politics in it. I'm not saying that you shouldn't, but for example I can't put up with the Allen creepy old man movies while I have no issue with his other classics.
Although it is alarming how many of his classics already involve creepy old man themes :lol: :ph34r:

In his classics he was a creepy old man in training.  :P

celedhring

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Quote from: Sheilbh on September 14, 2020, 05:36:15 AM
Quote from: celedhring on September 14, 2020, 05:35:25 AM
I just think that there's a difference in enjoying an artists' works despite their politics, and liking a *work* despite the politics in it. I'm not saying that you shouldn't, but for example I can't put up with the Allen creepy old man movies while I have no issue with his other classics.
Although it is alarming how many of his classics already involve creepy old man themes :lol: :ph34r:

I'm fully willing to concede that the fact Allen's classics are not creepy old man movies (i.e. Manhattan) is just because he wasn't old enough yet. But I'll take them  :D

Eddie Teach

I think the fact he was physically less powerful than the girls he was dating should also count for something.
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merithyn

Quote from: Eddie Teach on September 14, 2020, 06:16:37 AM
I think the fact he was physically less powerful than the girls he was dating should also count for something.

:huh:
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

Valmy

Woody Allen is not very physically imposing. Diane Keaton could have definitely taken him.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

merithyn

What does that have to do with him being a sexual predator?
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

viper37

Quote from: The Larch on September 14, 2020, 05:30:18 AM
Quote from: viper37 on September 13, 2020, 06:22:09 PM
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Quote from: The Minsky Moment on September 11, 2020, 01:20:05 PM
IIRC Ryan was aware that the band's viewpoint and lyrics were not consistent with his own views, he said he just liked the music.  Nothing wrong with that, it's like Jews listening to Wagner or R.Strauss or the St. Matthew's Passion

The lyrics of RATM aren't particularly subtle and I do wonder how can one do the whole "love the music, don't share the politics" when Zack de la Rocha is shouting said politics at you.
Well, I like RATM's Killing in the name of and I find myself on the opposite end of the spectrum.

And how do you reconcile that, when their politics are so much in your face that it's being screamed at you, and radically opposite to your own positions?
I did like a few of Michael Jackson's songs.  That does not mean I believe pedophilia to be a wonderful thing.  I really liked As I lay Dying, but I wouldn't consider myself a bible-thumper christian by any definition.

I do not have to reconcile anything.  I liked Killing in the name of, it's a good song.  There are songs I like that talk about drug binges and toxic relationship (I hate everything about you), yet I hate drugs, and I easily walk away from such relationships.  Sometimes I like a song for its lyrics, other times, for its music.
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

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Valmy

Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Valmy

Quote from: viper37 on September 14, 2020, 10:46:23 AM
I did like a few of Michael Jackson's songs.  That does not mean I believe pedophilia to be a wonderful thing.  I really liked As I lay Dying, but I wouldn't consider myself a bible-thumper christian by any definition.

I do not have to reconcile anything.  I liked Killing in the name of, it's a good song.  There are songs I like that talk about drug binges and toxic relationship (I hate everything about you), yet I hate drugs, and I easily walk away from such relationships.  Sometimes I like a song for its lyrics, other times, for its music.

I definitely believe in death of the author especially when the author is quite literally dead.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Oexmelin

A whistleblower has lodged a complaint that forced hysterectomies are being performed in an ICE facility (one being run by a for-profit corporation) detaining asylum seekers and migrants.

Que le grand cric me croque !

merithyn

Quote from: Oexmelin on September 14, 2020, 09:28:30 PM
A whistleblower has lodged a complaint that forced hysterectomies are being performed in an ICE facility (one being run by a for-profit corporation) detaining asylum seekers and migrants.

This fits. Used to be tubal ligations, but sure, I believe hysterectomies now.
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

Zoupa

:mellow:

reason number #35715386 never to visit the US again.

Wtf happened to you guys?

Razgovory

Quote from: Oexmelin on September 14, 2020, 09:28:30 PM
A whistleblower has lodged a complaint that forced hysterectomies are being performed in an ICE facility (one being run by a for-profit corporation) detaining asylum seekers and migrants.


That is sick.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017