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Razgovory

#17445
March 13, 2018, 09:14:25 PM
Quote from: Berkut on March 13, 2018, 08:21:36 PM


Indeed.

The adamant refusal to recognize that there is anything wrong in your own house is what gave is Hillary Clinton as the only Dem candidate in the entire country, among other examples.


If only the Democrats hadn't overlooked the ritual child murder, satanism, and cannibalism.  It's really their fault for this mess!
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

frunk

#17446
March 13, 2018, 09:34:51 PM
Quote from: grumbler on March 13, 2018, 08:48:49 PM

Which, ironically, restates the very position Valmy took that DGuller objected to!  :lol:

Languish:  so reliable.

I agree with Valmy for the most part, so I'm glad my words reflected that.  I think the distinction is that Valmy called it a new level while I'd call it a new ballpark.  It's not a matter of being even more partisan for a party or faction even if it uses similar language.  It's throwing over the country and party (as I think this will damage the Republicans for a long time) for an individual.  It might be clothed in the words of defending their team but it serves no purpose but to keep Trump in power.  Past members of a party would lose support if they veered too far off from the party's beliefs or did too many stupid things, even from fairly partisan groups.  Trump started out off the map and kept on going, all the while doing everything wrong and still got elected.  I think this has left some of the Repubs completely un-moored from anything other than "support Trump".

PDH

#17447
March 13, 2018, 09:41:33 PM
I said it long ago - a Trump will will destroy the Republican Party as it was.  He is well on his way to doing this thru sheer hubris on all parts.
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jimmy olsen

#17448
March 13, 2018, 10:32:52 PM
Down to the wire in the 36th most republican congressional district in the nation. Even if Saccone edges it out with the absente ballots, this probably isn't a good sign for the GOP.
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Jacob

#17449
March 13, 2018, 11:06:14 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 13, 2018, 08:24:52 PM
I'm with DGuller on this.  What some Republicans are doing to protect Trump has no equivalent in American political history.

Which is why principled Republicans - such as yourself - have jumped ship.

Jacob

#17450
March 13, 2018, 11:10:38 PM
Quote from: frunk on March 13, 2018, 09:34:51 PM
I agree with Valmy for the most part, so I'm glad my words reflected that.  I think the distinction is that Valmy called it a new level while I'd call it a new ballpark.  It's not a matter of being even more partisan for a party or faction even if it uses similar language.  It's throwing over the country and party (as I think this will damage the Republicans for a long time) for an individual.  It might be clothed in the words of defending their team but it serves no purpose but to keep Trump in power.  Past members of a party would lose support if they veered too far off from the party's beliefs or did too many stupid things, even from fairly partisan groups.  Trump started out off the map and kept on going, all the while doing everything wrong and still got elected.  I think this has left some of the Repubs completely un-moored from anything other than "support Trump".

The point is "both sides are the same" and "one side has moved the game to a whole new level/ into a whole new ballpark" are mutually incompatible statements.

If one side has taken unprecedented steps, then no both sides are not the same. If one side is trashing the norms of your democracy, even if those norms were far from perfect to begin with - then that side is worse than the other side, even if the other side is far from perfect.

Admiral Yi

#17451
March 13, 2018, 11:52:03 PM
It would be fun to see our own Idee Log whooping it up and speaking mush mouth at a Lamb victory celebration.  Then falling asleep.

Habbaku

#17452
March 14, 2018, 12:21:14 AM
His blog is still up and running.

He's still giving high scores to bad movies.
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grumbler

#17454
March 14, 2018, 04:43:30 AM
Quote from: Jacob on March 13, 2018, 11:10:38 PM
The point is "both sides are the same" and "one side has moved the game to a whole new level/ into a whole new ballpark" are mutually incompatible statements.

It's probably a good thing that no one has made that argument, then.
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Razgovory

#17455
March 14, 2018, 11:44:33 AM
Democrats picked up a congressional seat last night in Pennsylvania. Today students across the country are protesting pun vioelence. Head line over at Fox News is about he sinking of the Cyclops, something that happened 100 years ago today.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Valmy

#17456
March 14, 2018, 12:13:06 PM
Does whomever ends up winning that Special election in Pennsylvania have to run again in November?
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crazy canuck

#17457
March 14, 2018, 12:22:30 PM
Quote from: Valmy on March 14, 2018, 12:13:06 PM
Does whomever ends up winning that Special election in Pennsylvania have to run again in November?

Yes, but the boundaries will change.

Solmyr

#17458
March 14, 2018, 12:38:10 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on March 14, 2018, 11:44:33 AM
Today students across the country are protesting pun vioelence.

It's a rifle problem.

grumbler

#17459
March 14, 2018, 05:33:54 PM
Quote from: Solmyr on March 14, 2018, 12:38:10 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on March 14, 2018, 11:44:33 AM
Today students across the country are protesting pun vioelence.

It's a rifle problem.

It solution won't be automatic, but hopefully it will bump stocks.
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

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