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What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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DGuller

Quote from: Valmy on January 12, 2018, 11:38:16 AM
So because it is easy to see where the fuck-up came from, that makes it not embarrassing?
Meh, it's like the 57 states thing.  Putting this on the list of things to mock or be scared about is cheapening all the other hundreds of items that belong there legitimately.

mongers

Quote from: DGuller on January 12, 2018, 12:52:23 PM
Quote from: Valmy on January 12, 2018, 11:38:16 AM
So because it is easy to see where the fuck-up came from, that makes it not embarrassing?
Meh, it's like the 57 states thing.  Putting this on the list of things to mock or be scared about is cheapening all the other hundreds of items that belong there legitimately.

Yeah, I'm not gonna take him to task for not being able to read an auto-cue or do so sincerely, especially as compared to Obama; however I will criticise him for considering, on a whim, a war on the Korean peninsula
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Jacob

Quote from: Valmy on January 12, 2018, 11:38:16 AM
So because it is easy to see where the fuck-up came from, that makes it not embarrassing? Anyway despite your claim that I 'love' doing this I take no pleasure in Trumps fuck-ups. I guess as a foreigner you get to enjoy the LOLZ a bit more.

Do you hold Canadian leaders to the same standard?

Beeb? Depends which party they belong to.

Barrister

Quote from: Jacob on January 12, 2018, 01:34:22 PM
Quote from: Valmy on January 12, 2018, 11:38:16 AM
So because it is easy to see where the fuck-up came from, that makes it not embarrassing? Anyway despite your claim that I 'love' doing this I take no pleasure in Trumps fuck-ups. I guess as a foreigner you get to enjoy the LOLZ a bit more.

Do you hold Canadian leaders to the same standard?

Beeb? Depends which party they belong to.

I can't think of a similar example from Trudeau, but I think in general what I focus on are policies, or what something says about someone's character, rather than choices of words or verbal mis-steps.  I mean the reason I didn't like Chretien wasn't because he talked funny.

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Grey Fox

What's so great about Chretien is how he speaks funny in both languages. :lol:
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Razgovory

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on January 12, 2018, 11:12:51 AM
Basically tells us what we already suspected, Mattis is the cool hand, McMaster is a hothead.


Tillerson is also against this stupid idea, but word is, he's not long for this world.  What we need is for Mattis to force Trump to read The Sleepwalkers, and give the Donald a quiz at the end of each chapter.

Ugh.  It's like the Cuban Missile crisis, but with out the the grace, charm, and piercing intellect of Khrushchev.
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Malthus

Quote from: Grey Fox on January 12, 2018, 02:31:38 PM
What's so great about Chretien is how he speaks funny in both languages. :lol:

Was that because he had a funky backwoods accent, or some sort of illness, or both?
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Liep

So Trump was blackmailed by a porn star in 2016. Not that surprising really. :P
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Grey Fox

Quote from: Malthus on January 12, 2018, 03:33:39 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on January 12, 2018, 02:31:38 PM
What's so great about Chretien is how he speaks funny in both languages. :lol:

Was that because he had a funky backwoods accent, or some sort of illness, or both?

No one knows! Probably his mouth stiffness.
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The Brain

Quote from: Liep on January 12, 2018, 03:50:06 PM
So Trump was blackmailed by a porn star in 2016. Not that surprising really. :P

Which one?
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Monoriu

Quote from: Savonarola on January 11, 2018, 06:54:55 PM
I shouldn't have been surprised by this, but I was:

QuoteTrump Alarms Lawmakers With Disparaging Words for Haiti and Africa

WASHINGTON — President Trump on Thursday balked at an immigration deal that would include protections for people from Haiti and African countries, demanding to know at a White House meeting why he should accept immigrants from "shithole countries" rather than people from places like Norway, according to people with direct knowledge of the conversation.

Mr. Trump's remarks left members of Congress attending the meeting in the Cabinet Room alarmed and mystified. They were there discussing an emerging bipartisan deal to give legal status to immigrants illegally brought to the United States as children, the people said, speaking on condition of anonymity without authorization to discuss the explosive proceedings of the private meeting.

When Mr. Trump heard that Haitians were among those who would benefit, he asked if they could be left out of the plan, according to the people familiar with the conversation, asking, "Why do we want people from Haiti here?"

The comments were reminiscent of ones the president made last year in an Oval Office meeting with Cabinet officials and administration aides, where he complained about admitting Haitians to the country, saying that they all had AIDS, as well as Nigerians, who he said would never go back to their "huts," according to officials who heard the statements in person or were briefed on the remarks by people who did. The White House vehemently denied last month that Mr. Trump made those remarks.

In a written statement on Thursday, Raj Shah, the White House deputy press secretary, did not deny the account or directly address Mr. Trump's comments during the meeting.

"Certain Washington politicians choose to fight for foreign countries, but President Trump will always fight for the American people," Mr. Shah said. "Like other nations that have merit-based immigration, President Trump is fighting for permanent solutions that make our country stronger by welcoming those who can contribute to our society, grow our economy and assimilate into our great nation."

The episode, first reported by The Washington Post, unfolded as Mr. Trump was hosting a meeting with Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina, and Richard J. Durbin, Democrat of Illinois, who are working to codify the protections in the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, or DACA, the Obama-era initiative that provided temporary work permits and reprieves from deportation to immigrants brought to the United States as children by their parents. Representative Kevin McCarthy, Republican of California and the majority leader; Senator David Perdue, Republican of Georgia; Senator Tom Cotton, Republican of Arkansas; and Representative Robert W. Goodlatte, Republican of Virginia and the chairman of the Judiciary Committee, were also there.

The plan would also include some $2.7 million for border security and a grant of protected status for the parents of the so-called Dreamers, who would be barred from sponsoring their parents for citizenship.

Mr. Trump grew angry as the group detailed another aspect of the deal — a move to end the diversity visa lottery program and use some of the 50,000 visas to protect vulnerable populations who have been living in the United States under so-called Temporary Protected Status. That was when he asked about Haiti.

When the discussion turned to African nations, the people with knowledge of the conversation added, Mr. Trump asked why he would want "all these people from shithole countries," adding that the United States should admit more people from places like Norway.

:uffda:

I have one question, and that is, do the people of Norway really want to come to the US?  :unsure:

Monoriu

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on January 12, 2018, 11:11:00 AM

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No.  Just no. 

Eddie Teach

Quote from: Monoriu on January 12, 2018, 05:18:53 PM
Quote from: Savonarola on January 11, 2018, 06:54:55 PM
I shouldn't have been surprised by this, but I was:

QuoteTrump Alarms Lawmakers With Disparaging Words for Haiti and Africa

WASHINGTON — President Trump on Thursday balked at an immigration deal that would include protections for people from Haiti and African countries, demanding to know at a White House meeting why he should accept immigrants from "shithole countries" rather than people from places like Norway, according to people with direct knowledge of the conversation.

Mr. Trump's remarks left members of Congress attending the meeting in the Cabinet Room alarmed and mystified. They were there discussing an emerging bipartisan deal to give legal status to immigrants illegally brought to the United States as children, the people said, speaking on condition of anonymity without authorization to discuss the explosive proceedings of the private meeting.

When Mr. Trump heard that Haitians were among those who would benefit, he asked if they could be left out of the plan, according to the people familiar with the conversation, asking, "Why do we want people from Haiti here?"

The comments were reminiscent of ones the president made last year in an Oval Office meeting with Cabinet officials and administration aides, where he complained about admitting Haitians to the country, saying that they all had AIDS, as well as Nigerians, who he said would never go back to their "huts," according to officials who heard the statements in person or were briefed on the remarks by people who did. The White House vehemently denied last month that Mr. Trump made those remarks.

In a written statement on Thursday, Raj Shah, the White House deputy press secretary, did not deny the account or directly address Mr. Trump's comments during the meeting.

"Certain Washington politicians choose to fight for foreign countries, but President Trump will always fight for the American people," Mr. Shah said. "Like other nations that have merit-based immigration, President Trump is fighting for permanent solutions that make our country stronger by welcoming those who can contribute to our society, grow our economy and assimilate into our great nation."

The episode, first reported by The Washington Post, unfolded as Mr. Trump was hosting a meeting with Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina, and Richard J. Durbin, Democrat of Illinois, who are working to codify the protections in the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, or DACA, the Obama-era initiative that provided temporary work permits and reprieves from deportation to immigrants brought to the United States as children by their parents. Representative Kevin McCarthy, Republican of California and the majority leader; Senator David Perdue, Republican of Georgia; Senator Tom Cotton, Republican of Arkansas; and Representative Robert W. Goodlatte, Republican of Virginia and the chairman of the Judiciary Committee, were also there.

The plan would also include some $2.7 million for border security and a grant of protected status for the parents of the so-called Dreamers, who would be barred from sponsoring their parents for citizenship.

Mr. Trump grew angry as the group detailed another aspect of the deal — a move to end the diversity visa lottery program and use some of the 50,000 visas to protect vulnerable populations who have been living in the United States under so-called Temporary Protected Status. That was when he asked about Haiti.

When the discussion turned to African nations, the people with knowledge of the conversation added, Mr. Trump asked why he would want "all these people from shithole countries," adding that the United States should admit more people from places like Norway.

:uffda:

I have one question, and that is, do the people of Norway really want to come to the US?  :unsure:

Thing is, we don't really need more people from anywhere.
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Malthus

Quote from: Monoriu on January 12, 2018, 05:18:53 PM
I have one question, and that is, do the people of Norway really want to come to the US?  :unsure:

What makes it funny (in a sad sort of way) is that they weren't talking about immigration generally, but about regularizing children brought by their parents through illegal immigration.

Some folks may, on occasion, move to the US from Norway. Illegal immigration of children from Norway though has got to be vanishingly rare.
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