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What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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Eddie Teach

I'd like to think Fox viewers are smarter than he gives them credit for. So Muellers team has some Democrats on it, what a nothing of a story.
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11B4V

Quote from: Eddie Teach on December 17, 2017, 12:44:36 PM
I'd like to think Fox viewers are smarter than he gives them credit for. So Muellers team has some Democrats on it, what a nothing of a story.
:lol: Good one.
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

11B4V

Quote from: Jacob on December 17, 2017, 12:26:56 PM
And what dguller is concerned about is that that groundwork is being actively and noticeably being laid now.

IMO Fox news has been actively doing that as the propaganda machine to the mouth breathing masses. Recently they went into overdrive.
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

DGuller

Quote from: Eddie Teach on December 17, 2017, 12:44:36 PM
I'd like to think Fox viewers are smarter than he gives them credit for. So Muellers team has some Democrats on it, what a nothing of a story.
Who wouldn't like to think that, other than GOP propagandists?  But at some point we have to think about reality.  If there is a limit to Fox's ability to sell a story to its habitual viewers, I don't think we've seen an example of it yet.

CountDeMoney

lol we just can't have all these darkies running around, making all this free government nigger money.  Need to align the USG with the rest of wage-supressed America.  Must increase shareholder value.

QuotePowerPost Perspective
Trump labor adviser's plan for cutting federal compensation, potentially even paid holidays
By Joe Davidson | Columnist December 17 at 8:00 AM
Amazon Washington Post

The Trump administration's consideration of a wage freeze for federal employees is one piece of a renewed multifront Republican push to shrink those workers' pay, benefits and workforce.

That effort has been around for years, but it now has an intellectual champion in the White House, and I don't mean President Trump.

Confidential administration information released last week by Sen. Claire McCaskill (Mo.), the leading Democrat on the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, revealed an administration proposal to freeze federal salaries in fiscal 2019. That is the third piece in a pattern that includes Trump's 2018 budget proposal to cut the employer contribution to retirement benefits and the House Republican plan to have retirees pay more out of pocket for their health insurance.

Congress did not approve the last two recommendations, and the pay freeze, which Trump can impose, is not beyond the leaked-document stage. Yet the proposals lurk, likely to reemerge in future budget plans after having long percolated in conservative circles.

Now, with James Sherk — a chief proponent of the notion that federal workers are overpaid — serving as Trump's labor adviser, the proposals stand their best chance yet of becoming policies that dig deep into federal employees' pockets.

Sherk, a labor economist, joined Trump's team early this year after working for the conservative Heritage Foundation. His co-authored report, "Why It Is Time to Reform Compensation for Federal Employees," was published by Heritage just days after the 2016 Republican National Convention nominated Trump.

The bottom line: Feds would get less pay and benefits for more work.

"Our paper was intended to serve as a framework for any candidate or elected official who wants to improve the way the federal government operates and offer more competitive options to federal employees," Rachel Greszler, a Heritage economist who wrote the report with Sherk, said by email Friday.

"Reform" really does not convey the serious bite of their proposals. The central thesis is that federal workers are overcompensated compared with those in the private sector. They outlined a plan to cut those costs — a blueprint that Sherk can now follow from a position of influence in the White House — "to the extent that the administration is willing to take on the labor policies that Sherk has spent much of his career championing," Greszler said.

Those policies face fierce opposition from Democrats and federal employee organizations.

Policies like Sherk's "undermine the value this country places on public service by targeting the income security of those who carry it out," said Richard G. Thissen, president of the National Active and Retired Federal Employees Association. "Whether caring for our veterans, responding to disasters or just ensuring the day-to-day operation of democratic government, the work these individuals do is vital to our country, and it should be rewarded, not devalued."

The paper did not call for a pay freeze, but Greszler's email said that "without Congressional action, it is the administration's only tool. While a freeze alone doesn't help achieve a more competitive pay structure (because the current system massively overcompensates lower-skilled workers and provides little to no compensation premium for the highest-skilled workers), it could serve as a bargaining tool for more comprehensive Congressional action."

Rather than making the government a model employer, the proposals would unite Uncle Sam with employee-regressive business practices designed to maximize profits. But Sam is in the business of service, not propelling profits.

The authors begin by citing three studies indicating that federal compensation is higher than private-sector compensation by at least 16 percent. They ignored Federal Salary Council data saying federal workers earn 34 percent less, on average, than comparable private-sector employees.

Sherk and the White House declined my requests to speak with him, but his published work speaks for itself.

Sherk has argued for years that federal compensation is too high. Consider the title of his 2010 Star Tribune piece: "Who in This Country Has More than They Deserve? Most Federal Employees."

Really? Seeking to counter that negative notion, he and Greszler want to:


1) Restrict within-grade increases, also known as step increases. These pay hikes are based largely on tenure, rather than performance. "Limiting the size of step increases would, over time, lower pay for all federal employees."

2) Undermine the federal retirement program by moving away from defined-benefit pensions, which cost employers more, to a defined-contribution system, which provides less certainty and higher costs for federal workers.

3) Shrink pensions significantly in the future, basing them on the average of employees' annual career salaries instead of the current high three years — not even on the high five that other Republicans have suggested.

4) Kill federal retiree health-care benefit subsidies for new hires.

5) Extend the probationary period to three years, giving managers more time to fire workers at will.

6) Speed the firing process by limiting the opportunity to appeal terminations and lowering the proof needed to give workers the boot from "a preponderance of evidence" to "substantial evidence."

7) Cut paid time off, including vacation and sick time. The authors noted that few private employers provide paid time off for every federal holiday, implying that federal employers also should not provide it. (The rationale for Columbus Day as a federal holiday is weak, but that's another story).



"These policies would boost federal employees' productivity by increasing the number of days they work," Greszler and Sherk wrote, "and thus could reduce the number of federal employees needed to carry out government functions."

One compensation increase they favor is bigger performance bonus budgets, but within a process that would cut average federal pay by five percentage points after implementation of smaller step increases.

Although Sherk has a long-standing interest in federal compensation, none of several federal employee organizations contacted said he had spoken with them since he joined the White House.

"We've never heard from James Sherk," said Steve Lenkart, executive director of the National Federation of Federal Employees. "We don't know him, and he certainly doesn't know us or federal employees or families. He doesn't represent the values that working people share, nor does he understand the complexities of the federal workforce.

"In addition, the cuts and pay freezes being considered by this administration are expected, sadly, because this administration has been forthright in its poor opinion of working people and their families."

11B4V

"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

CountDeMoney

Quote from: 11B4V on December 17, 2017, 02:48:42 PM
:lol:

Good luck with that.

Yeah.  I said that about the State Department.  And the EPA.   And words.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: Jacob on December 17, 2017, 12:26:56 PM
And what dguller is concerned about is that that groundwork is being actively and noticeably being laid now.



Jesse Watters Says We May "Have a Coup On Our Hands in America'

QuoteFox News has recently ramped up its frenzied rhetorical war against Special Counsel Robert Mueller and the FBI in general, with prime-time hosts (and Trump pals) Jeanine Pirro and Sean Hannity calling, night after night, for Mueller to be fired and the organization to be purged of partisans.

On Saturday evening, Jesse Watters and the network's chyron writers went above and beyond even the usual Fox bombast.

...

"We may now have proof the investigation was weaponized to destroy his presidency for partisan political purposes and to disenfranchise millions of American voters," Watters said. "Now, if that's true, we have a coup on our hands in America."

As Watters interviewed Kellyanne Conway, :bleeding: who stood in front of the White House and joined in Watters' condemnations, the chyron aped his ominous phrase.


They know he's watching, and they know how easy it is to get him to do what he sees on TV.  And Fox's Trump Wisperers are going to keep goading him until he does what they tell him to do.

CountDeMoney

Calling him the Manchurian Candidate is actually insulting to the Manchu people.  He's the McRib Candidate.

DGuller

If FSB designed a candidate to infiltrate the US government and destroy it from within, trained and smart enough to know to not over-reach too much too soon, would they get a more effective asset than what Trump is?

The Brain

Quote from: DGuller on December 17, 2017, 03:55:23 PM
If FSB designed a candidate to infiltrate the US government and destroy it from within, trained and smart enough to know to not over-reach too much too soon, would they get a more effective asset than what Trump is?

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DGuller

Quote from: The Brain on December 17, 2017, 04:25:00 PM
Quote from: DGuller on December 17, 2017, 03:55:23 PM
If FSB designed a candidate to infiltrate the US government and destroy it from within, trained and smart enough to know to not over-reach too much too soon, would they get a more effective asset than what Trump is?

You're asking for a friend?
:mad:

Oexmelin

Meanwhile, as always, deafening silence from "moderate"conservatives.
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The Brain

Women want me. Men want to be with me.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Oexmelin on December 17, 2017, 05:02:18 PM
Meanwhile, as always, deafening silence from "moderate"conservatives.

As always?  That's not true.  It may not be as much as you would like, which would probably be something like an MSNBC volume, but you can hardly say moderate conservatives have been entirely silent.