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What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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CountDeMoney

Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 17, 2017, 05:06:50 PM
Quote from: Oexmelin on December 17, 2017, 05:02:18 PM
Meanwhile, as always, deafening silence from "moderate"conservatives.

As always?  That's not true.  It may not be as much as you would like, which would probably be something like an MSNBC volume, but you can hardly say moderate conservatives have been entirely silent.

Yes, I am as impressed and inspired as you by the bravery of moderate conservatives that are retiring, not running for office, or almost dead.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 17, 2017, 05:36:02 PM
Yes, I am as impressed and inspired as you by the bravery of moderate conservatives that are retiring, not running for office, or almost dead.

Your strawman kungfu is very powerful. 

CountDeMoney

Go drown in a bong water boating accident.

Admiral Yi

Google your nearest Rageaholics Anonymous chapter.

CountDeMoney

Sorry, can't hear you over the sound of your liver shutting down during Bar Trivia.

jimmy olsen

Quote from: DGuller on December 17, 2017, 06:18:47 AM
Quote from: Eddie Teach on December 17, 2017, 06:02:13 AM
I dunno, man. Mueller getting fired might cost them 5-10% votes across the board in 2018. Big risk for little gain for congressional GOP.
I'm not sure there are that many GOP voters who are liable to change their votes based on what happens to Mueller, and probably the big goal of the media offensive is to reduce that number further.  The more you hit the legitimacy of Mueller, the more you're down to just the usual suspects either being outraged or cheerful about the move. 
Combination of some GOP voters staying home and Dem voters voting who wouldn't have could cause that swing without anyone changing their vote.
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Razgovory

Quote from: Jacob on December 17, 2017, 12:26:56 PM
And what dguller is concerned about is that that groundwork is being actively and noticeably being laid now.


Well, on the plus side me not finding a job will soon be irrelevant.
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Valmy

Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 17, 2017, 03:40:59 PM
Quote from: Jacob on December 17, 2017, 12:26:56 PM
And what dguller is concerned about is that that groundwork is being actively and noticeably being laid now.



Jesse Watters Says We May "Have a Coup On Our Hands in America'

QuoteFox News has recently ramped up its frenzied rhetorical war against Special Counsel Robert Mueller and the FBI in general, with prime-time hosts (and Trump pals) Jeanine Pirro and Sean Hannity calling, night after night, for Mueller to be fired and the organization to be purged of partisans.

On Saturday evening, Jesse Watters and the network's chyron writers went above and beyond even the usual Fox bombast.

...

"We may now have proof the investigation was weaponized to destroy his presidency for partisan political purposes and to disenfranchise millions of American voters," Watters said. "Now, if that's true, we have a coup on our hands in America."

As Watters interviewed Kellyanne Conway, :bleeding: who stood in front of the White House and joined in Watters' condemnations, the chyron aped his ominous phrase.


They know he's watching, and they know how easy it is to get him to do what he sees on TV.  And Fox's Trump Wisperers are going to keep goading him until he does what they tell him to do.

What does the investigation have to do with disenfranchisement?
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: Valmy on December 17, 2017, 07:46:51 PM
What does the investigation have to do with disenfranchisement?

That it would nullify the minority of voters that elected him President.

jimmy olsen

Quote from: Eddie Teach on December 17, 2017, 12:44:36 PM
I'd like to think Fox viewers are smarter than he gives them credit for. So Muellers team has some Democrats on it, what a nothing of a story.

Approval for Trump among Fox News Viewers as dropped from 90% to 58% since June.
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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Admiral Yi

Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 17, 2017, 10:34:01 PM
Approval for Trump among Fox News Viewers as dropped from 90% to 58% since June.

Interesting data.  Where did you get it?

Valmy

Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 17, 2017, 07:53:34 PM
Quote from: Valmy on December 17, 2017, 07:46:51 PM
What does the investigation have to do with disenfranchisement?

That it would nullify the minority of voters that elected him President.

Except it wouldn't. Pence would be President and they elected him also.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

CountDeMoney

Quote from: Valmy on December 18, 2017, 12:49:12 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 17, 2017, 07:53:34 PM
Quote from: Valmy on December 17, 2017, 07:46:51 PM
What does the investigation have to do with disenfranchisement?

That it would nullify the minority of voters that elected him President.

Except it wouldn't. Pence would be President and they elected him also.

Aside from the fact that you're trying to start shit with me, you operate under the assumption that Pence is clean.  Transition team wasn't that big.  And Pence was its chairman. 

Remember your Organized Crime 101:  the Front Man always goes down as well.  They've already got a guilty plea from the Bag Man.

jimmy olsen

It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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jimmy olsen

Also, Lol, how you write a tax cut less popular than a tax hike!?  :lmfao:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/will-passing-the-tax-bill-help-the-gop-in-2018-probably-not/
QuoteThe GOP's tax bill is still historically unpopular
APPROVE
YEAR POLLSTER TAX BILL YES NO DIFF.
1981 Gallup Reagan tax cut I 51% 26% +25
2001 Harris W. Bush tax cut I 49 37 +12
2010 ABC/WaPo Extending Bush tax cut I 54 42 +12
2013 ABC/WaPo Extending Bush tax cut II 45 38 +7
2003 Harris W. Bush tax cut II 45 39 +6
1986 CBS/NYT Reagan tax cut II 38 34 +4
1993 Gallup Clinton tax hike 34 44 -10
1990 Voter News Service H.W. Bush tax hike 41 52 -11
2017 December average* Trump tax cut 33 52 -19

*Average of surveys by CBS News, Gallup, Harris Interactive, Ipsos, Morning Consult, Public Policy Polling, Quinnipiac University, SurveyMonkey and YouGov.
Note: The polls included in this table used different question wording, including variations on "support," "approve" and "favor," as well as "oppose" "disapprove" and "vote down."
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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