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What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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Eddie Teach

Quote from: celedhring on October 12, 2017, 01:08:00 PM
Quote from: Valmy on October 12, 2017, 01:01:58 PM
Quote from: celedhring on October 12, 2017, 12:37:46 PM
I'm certainly not a centrist, nor an extremist.

Sort of a moderate extremist.

While you're extremely moderate.  :P

Only hardline conservatives fear the Red Menace in 2017.   :P
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viper37

Trump announces he might scrap NAFTA and sign a deal just with Canada.  Then sign a deal just with Mexico.

I don't see how that would be better to any of the 3 parties involved.
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dps

Quote from: viper37 on October 12, 2017, 03:12:42 PM
Trump announces he might scrap NAFTA and sign a deal just with Canada.  Then sign a deal just with Mexico.

I don't see how that would be better to any of the 3 parties involved.

Presumably, the details of the agreement with Canada would be different than the details of the agreement with Mexico.  And while there might be some minor points on which that would makes sense, overall I can't see any advantage.


Habbaku

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Eddie Teach

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Barrister

Quote from: Valmy on October 12, 2017, 12:34:15 PM
Not really. Many are proudly extremists.

Extremism in the defence of liberty is no vice. -_-
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Valmy

Quote from: Barrister on October 12, 2017, 08:44:04 PM
Quote from: Valmy on October 12, 2017, 12:34:15 PM
Not really. Many are proudly extremists.

Extremism in the defence of liberty is no vice. -_-

:w00t:

I knew you would dump that Burkean drivel and come around eventually!



[spoiler]Yes I know you were quoting somebody marginally less extreme.[/spoiler]
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CountDeMoney

The WH just announced it's not going to make the ACA subsidy payments.   :lol:


Barrister

Quote from: Valmy on October 12, 2017, 08:47:42 PM
[spoiler]Yes I know you were quoting somebody marginally less extreme.[/spoiler]

Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

CountDeMoney

QuoteTrump will scrap critical Obamacare subsidy
Scrapping the payments to insurers, which could happen almost immediately, is likely to provide another jolt to Obamacare markets.

By JOSH DAWSEY and PAUL DEMKO
Politico.com
10/12/2017 09:18 PM EDT
Updated 10/12/2017 10:47 PM EDT

President Donald Trump plans to cut off subsidy payments to insurers selling Obamacare coverage in his most aggressive move yet to undermine the health care law, according to two sources.

The subsidies, which are worth an estimated $7 billion this year and are paid out in monthly installments, may stop almost immediately since Congress hasn't appropriated funding for the program.

The decision, leaked only a few hours after Trump signed an executive order calling for new regulations to encourage the rise of a raft of cheap, loosely regulated health plans, delivers a double blow to Obamacare after months of failed GOP efforts to repeal the law. With open enrollment for the 2018 plan year set to launch in two weeks, the moves seem aimed at dismantling the law through executive actions.

Scrapping the subsidy payments is likely to jolt already fragile Obamacare markets -- although the impact may be less severe than it would have been a few months back. Many insurers had priced next year's plans higher than they otherwise would have, fearing this outcome after months of threats from the White House. Others have already fled the Obamacare markets, which are set to begin open enrollment in Nov. 1 for the 2018 plan year.

"Certainly problematic markets are going to become more unstable," said Greg Scott, who oversees Deloitte's health plans consulting practice.

Trump has threatened for months to cut off the payments, deriding them as a "bailout" for insurers. While Republican lawmakers complained the subsidies were never properly appropriated by Congress, many were wary of ending them suddenly.

Failed Obamacare repeal packages considered by the House and Senate, H.R. 1628, included near-term funding for the program, which had been paid out through the executive branch each month.

The announcement, expected to be made Friday, may put more pressure on a bipartisan effort in the Senate's health committee to preserve the subsidies to shore up Obamacare marketplaces.

"While I'm sure initial reactions will be negative, this might be the spark Congress needs to act on this issue," said an insurance lobbyist who declined to be named. "There was no pressure before ... That might actually be the silver lining."

Even some Republican lawmakers expressed consternation Thursday night.

"Cutting health care subsidies will mean more uninsured in my district," tweeted Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, a Florida Republican late Thursday. "@potus promised more access, affordable coverage. This does opposite."

New York Attorney General A.G. Schneiderman, who led a group of Democratic attorneys general to defend the subsidies in court this spring, said last night they would sue to stop the administration from acting.

"I will not allow President Trump to once again use New York families as political pawns in his dangerous, partisan campaign to eviscerate the Affordable Care Act at any cost," he said in a prepared statement.

Some insurers are also likely sue the Trump administration over the failure to make payments that they believe they're entitled to under the Affordable Care Act.

Trump has argued that Democrats will take the blame if the markets implode, but polling strongly suggests the public will point the finger at Republicans for Obamacare problems under Trump's watch.

Valmy

Well it is what a geographically well located minority of Americans wanted.
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