What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[Razgovory]

Eh, anyone who fights Nazis is doing something right.

[derspiess]

Some guy driving a car into pedestrians doesn't make American Nazis relevant.

There are other factors in play as well, that's true - like the number of rallies they're holding and the fact that the current White House has several key members whom the American Nazis characterize as their "fellow travellers."

Not to mention your vivid imagination.

[garbon]

So this happened today:

Wait Trump retweeted just some random guy? I guess to sic his fans on him. Tough break Mike Holden but twitter is a very dangerous place.

Apparently it was then quickly deleted so presumably someone noticed his mistake.

[CountDeMoney]

Not to mention your vivid imagination.

You tell 'em, Schottzie

[Jacob]

Not to mention your vivid imagination.

You really are going for the classic playbook. First you roll with "the other side is just as bad!" and now it's "you're making it up, it's all in your head!"

Spencer explained at one point that Stephen Miller and Steve Bannon, two senior White House officials, might potentially be characterized as his fellow travelers.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/08/richard-spencers-domestic-press-conference.html

White nationalists are planning more demonstrations after Charlottesville

Emboldened and proclaiming victory after a bloody weekend in Virginia, white nationalists are planning more demonstrations to promote their agenda following the violence that left a woman dead and dozens injured.

The University of Florida said white provocateur Richard Spencer, whose appearances sometimes stoke unrest, is seeking permission to speak there next month. And white nationalist Preston Wiginton said he is planning a "White Lives Matter" rally at Texas A&M University in September.

Also, a neo-Confederate group has asked the state of Virginia for permission to rally at a monument to Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee in Richmond on Sept. 16, and other events are likely.

"We're going to be more active than ever before," Matthew Heimbach, a white nationalist leader, said Monday.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/14/white-nationalists-are-planning-more-demonstrations-after-charlottesville.html

[Valmy]

Nationalists suck so fucking much. We need to work to keep that shit out of this hemisphere.

[Eddie Teach]

Valmy, why do you hate America? 

[garbon]

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/15/us/holocaust-memorial-boston.html

Holocaust Memorial in Boston Is Vandalized for Second Time This Summer

A Massachusetts teenager has been charged with vandalizing a Holocaust memorial in Boston in what the city's police commissioner called a "senseless and shameful" act, particularly after the neo-Nazi rally in Charlottesville, Va.

The Boston Police Department said the suspect, a 17-year-old from the city of Malden, around six miles north of Boston, was seen on Monday night by witnesses throwing what appeared to be a rock at the New England Holocaust Memorial, an outdoor series of six 54-foot-high towers, each composed of multiple glass panels. A panel on one of the towers was shattered, the department said.

When the police arrived at the site just before 7 p.m., they arrested the teenager, who had been detained by two bystanders. He is charged with willful and malicious destruction of property, the police said. The department's civil rights unit is investigating.

"Clearly, this type of behavior will not be tolerated in our city," the police commissioner, William B. Evans, said in the statement. "And, in light of the recent events and unrest in Charlottesville, it's sad to see a young person choose to engage in such senseless and shameful behavior."

The suspect's name was not released because he is under 18. On Tuesday, he was expected to appear in Boston Juvenile Court for an arraignment, but there were no further details from the Suffolk County district attorney's office.

It was the second time this summer that the memorial, which has stood unassailed since it was completed in 1995 in a section of the city frequented by tourists, has been damaged. In June, a 21-year-old man from Roxbury, Mass., James R. Isaac, was arraigned on charges of malicious destruction of property over $250 and willful damage to a church, synagogue, or memorial.

Prosecutors said at the time that Mr. Isaac had thrown an object at the monument, shattering one of its panels, after he got into an argument with a group of people. Mr. Isaac was wearing a GPS monitoring device at the time as a condition of his release in an unrelated assault and battery case, prosecutors said. The status of Mr. Isaac's two cases was not immediately clear.

The memorial was dedicated in 1995 in a ceremony on the steps of Boston City Hall Plaza. Its design, by the architect Stanley Saitowitz, was inspired by elements built around the number six — including for the six millions Jews murdered by the Nazi regime, and the six years, 1939 to 1945, of the deadliest phase of the Holocaust.

Visitors to the monument can walk among the soaring towers, illuminated from below. The millions of numbers for the tattoos that were embedded on the arms of Holocaust victims are etched into the glass towers, and fall across the faces of visitors in shadow. "As visitors walk along this path, entering the towers, they are tattooed with the shadows of numbers, and trapped momentarily in a theater of horror," the memorial's website says.

The police did not specify a motive, but the vandalism in Boston came three days after the neo-Nazi and white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, in which neo-Nazis carried banners and flags with swastikas, used anti-Semitic terms and held their arms out in Hitler salutes. Heather D. Heyer, a 32-year-old Virginia counterprotester, was fatally run down when, according to the police, James Alex Fields Jr., who had been seen at the protests alongside members of a right-wing group, drove his car into an area choked with a crowd.

Mr. Fields was charged with second-degree murder. A former teacher described him as interested in the neo-Nazi movement.

Jewish organizations and civil rights groups have expressed concern and outrage over the rally in Virginia and its displays of racist and Nazi emblems. Israel's official Holocaust memorial warned that Nazi ideology "was a precursor to the eventual murderous policy," The Associated Press reported.

The Anti-Defamation League called on the White House to implement a plan of action that "will ensure the kind of white supremacist violence and anti-Semitic and racist incitement witnessed in Charlottesville will not happen again."

In Boston, Jeremy Burton, the executive director of the Jewish Community Relations Council, which conducts educational programs at the New England Holocaust Memorial, said on Tuesday that the shattered glass had been swept up Monday night.

He said he contacted Holocaust survivors and their relatives in their Boston area to inform them of the vandalism in what were "indescribably painful" conversations, particularly after seeing the public displays of Nazi support in Charlottesville that he said he "never thought that in my own lifetime" he would see.

"Without speaking to the motive, I would say it is incredibly painful and frankly horrifying that we are seeing this series of events this summer, this disrespect of this sacred space," he said in a telephone interview. Mr. Burton said this was a moment when "more than ever we need to remember the Holocaust for what it was and what it means."

[Savonarola]

CNN ran an article about the number of hate groups and hate crimes in the United States:

By the numbers: 7 charts that explain hate groups in the United States

There are some problems with the data presented.  The chart shows the number of groups, rather than total membership.  Also it's possible that a large percentage of the Alt-Right are unaffiliated with a hate group.  Still I found it interesting that the overall number of hate groups is down from Obama's first term, (and one of the fastest growing categories in recent years is Black Separatist groups) but it's now that White Nationalist groups are holding rallies.

[Valmy]

Those black nationalist separatist groups worry me a bit BUT hopefully once Trump leaves office that will simmer down a bit. I mean it is not like black Americans have not had rises in this kind of stuff in the past.

[Valmy]

Valmy, why do you hate America? 

I am still bitter over that outrageous quasi war with her glorious sister republic. Is a few cents for tribute really that much to ask?

[grumbler]

Valmy, why do you hate America? 

Eddie, why do you love nationalists (white, black, whatever)? 

One can be a patriot (and love America) without being a nationalists (loving one's nation, however one conceives it).  In fact, I'd argue that nationalists are the ones who hate America.

[Eddie Teach]

America is my nation, not white people or Celts or whatever.

[Liep]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/08/15/trump-doubles-down-on-initial-charlottesville-response-saying-there-is-blame-on-both-sides-for-violence/?utm_term=.2ef890b21fb7?tid=a_breakingnews&hpid=hp_no-name_no-name%3Apage%2Fbreaking-news-bar

Same story here when the neo-nazis gets beaten up by the anti-fascists crowd while marching. So much so that the nazis get sympathy in the press for being suppressed.

[The Brain]

charges of malicious destruction of property over $250 and willful damage to a church, synagogue, or memorial.

Dear Mrs., Mr., Miss, or Mr. and Mrs. Daneeka...