What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[DGuller]

It would engender suspicion. If you're getting more money there's usually a reason for it. People don't give out cash without expectations. Sources would matter too I guess, universities (direct funded, not through partnerships) would by less eyebrow raising then financial institutions or oil companies, for example.

People give out cash to politicians without expectations all the time.  Did people really donate to Bernie Sanders expecting a job in his administration in return?

[Berkut]

Basically what is it exactly are you trying to accomplish in this discussion? What are you hoping I take away here? Because you seem very passionately determined that I be convinced of something and I cannot figure it out.

That Clinton was in fact a terrible candidate, and that the election of Trump reflects poorly on the choices the DNC has made over the last four years when they allowed the Clintons to stifle any possible candidacy other than her own.

That Clinton was a poor candidate with a lot of baggage, and in a political environment where people demand change, putting up the poster child for the "machine" was a huge mistake, and recognizing that letting one clique dominate a national party in the manner that the Clintons dominated the Democrats is bad for the Party, and needs to be avoided if they don't want to let another astoundingly terrible candidate (Trump again) win a second term.

What bothers me is that it seems to me like the narrative is just the opposite - that Clinton was a great candidate, and it is just that America is too stupid to not elect Trump, so the Dems should probably just keep doing the same thing, and maybe they can even run Clinton again, or find someone just like her.

The Dems need to figure out how they lost middle America. Calling them all deplorable and demanding that they vote for you candidate on the basis of being less horrific than the other guy is a way to see more fringe candidates. The Dems need to find mainstream Democrats who can appeal to mainstream Americans, and start winning grassroots political contests again, in addition to finding some young(er) leadership to be the face of the party.

And no, I don't mean Chelsea.

[CountDeMoney]

The Dems need to figure out how they lost middle America. Calling them all deplorable and demanding that they vote for you candidate on the basis of being less horrific than the other guy is a way to see more fringe candidates. The Dems need to find mainstream Democrats who can appeal to mainstream Americans, and start winning grassroots political contests again, in addition to finding some young(er) leadership to be the face of the party.

Is this the mainstream middle Americans that hate niggers, or the mainstream middle Americans that hate women? 

[Razgovory]

I wonder what was out of the mainstream about Clinton.

[CountDeMoney]

She pees sitting down.  Just can't have that.

[11B4V]

The Dems need to figure out how they lost middle America. Calling them all deplorable and demanding that they vote for you candidate on the basis of being less horrific than the other guy is a way to see more fringe candidates. The Dems need to find mainstream Democrats who can appeal to mainstream Americans, and start winning grassroots political contests again, in addition to finding some young(er) leadership to be the face of the party.

Is this the mainstream middle Americans that hate niggers, or the mainstream middle Americans that hate women?

Both

[Ed Anger]

She pees sitting down.  Just can't have that.

CORRECT

[CountDeMoney]

Both

A sizable chunk of Obama-Trump voters — 30 percent — said their vote for Trump was more a vote against Clinton than a vote for Trump.

[Ed Anger]

How do you classify Egg McMuffin voters?

[Valmy]

Good. Then we can count on their support come 2018 when Clinton will not be running. Send Trump a message.

[Valmy]

How do you classify Egg McMuffin voters?

Gay Mormons.

[Ed Anger]

How do you classify Egg McMuffin voters?

Gay Mormons.

[CountDeMoney]

How do you classify Egg McMuffin voters?

Racist assholes that use dog whistles like McGriddle anti-colonial behavior.

[Valmy]

What bothers me is that it seems to me like the narrative is just the opposite - that Clinton was a great candidate, and it is just that America is too stupid to not elect Trump, so the Dems should probably just keep doing the same thing, and maybe they can even run Clinton again, or find someone just like her.

I said during the campaign she was a bad campaigner. But that does not let the voters off the hook for voting for Trump. They, after all, voted for him twice. He wasn't running against Clinton in the Primaries.

So the same thing is to continue to nominate Hillary Clinton? I am pretty sure she has only won this one time. How is doing something they have only ever done once doing the same thing? Or as an indicator they will keep finding Hillary clones? Who exactly would that even be? What qualities would they have? Not a raving socialist? Is that really want you want?

[Ed Anger]

How do you classify Egg McMuffin voters?

Racist assholes that use dog whistles like McGriddle anti-colonial behavior.