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What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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derspiess

Quote from: Valmy on April 06, 2017, 12:53:56 PM
If Trump had given them any out at all, any possibly political cover to cooperate with him,

Like what?
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derspiess

Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 06, 2017, 12:55:44 PM
Eat fetus shit and miscarry yourself, niggerhater.  The GOP mouthbreathers have wanted majoritarianism for years, now they have it.

Someone needs a nap!
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Valmy

Quote from: derspiess on April 06, 2017, 12:55:45 PM
Like what?

By acting like a normal politician. Bush was pretty unpopular, among Democrats anyway, but the Democrats bended to him fairly often.

Trump makes everything personal and creates many unnecessary enemies.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

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celedhring

I don't think rolling over and accept Gorsuch was an option after the Reps refused to even take up Garland. It was a matter of principle.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: derspiess on April 06, 2017, 12:57:09 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 06, 2017, 12:55:44 PM
Eat fetus shit and miscarry yourself, niggerhater.  The GOP mouthbreathers have wanted majoritarianism for years, now they have it.

Someone needs a nap!

Enough with the murder euphemisms, asshole.

Jacob

Surprise surprise, two of our most anti-Democrat posters think the Democrats would have been better off going along with the Trump administration and the GOP and not make a fuss.

The reality is that the filibuster is dead. Whether it died now or later, the GOP were going to kill it. Might as well get it out of the way now and make it clear how the GOP rolls, keeping it closer to their intransigence re: Garland.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: celedhring on April 06, 2017, 01:19:52 PM
I don't think rolling over and accept Gorsuch was an option after the Reps refused to even take up Garland. It was a matter of principle.

If you've only got one shot in the clip you save it for a big target.

merithyn

Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 06, 2017, 01:53:58 PM
Quote from: celedhring on April 06, 2017, 01:19:52 PM
I don't think rolling over and accept Gorsuch was an option after the Reps refused to even take up Garland. It was a matter of principle.

If you've only got one shot in the clip you save it for a big target.

Or you shoot wide and make it a fist fight. That appears to be what they've done.
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

Admiral Yi

Quote from: merithyn on April 06, 2017, 01:55:01 PM
Or you shoot wide and make it a fist fight. That appears to be what they've done.

I don't know what that means.  Really vicious tweeting?

Barrister

Quote from: Jacob on April 06, 2017, 01:50:46 PM
Surprise surprise, two of our most anti-Democrat posters think the Democrats would have been better off going along with the Trump administration and the GOP and not make a fuss.

The reality is that the filibuster is dead. Whether it died now or later, the GOP were going to kill it. Might as well get it out of the way now and make it clear how the GOP rolls, keeping it closer to their intransigence re: Garland.

Whoever said anything about "not making a fuss"?

It used to long be a tradition in the Senate that you would vote against a nominee, but not filibuster the nomination.

RIght now I don't think the Republicans are going to take any political heat for doing away with the filibuster.  Maybe if there is a second USSC vacancy, and the candidate is far more flawed than Gorsuch, the Republicans would pay a political price.
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garbon

Quote from: merithyn on April 06, 2017, 01:55:01 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 06, 2017, 01:53:58 PM
Quote from: celedhring on April 06, 2017, 01:19:52 PM
I don't think rolling over and accept Gorsuch was an option after the Reps refused to even take up Garland. It was a matter of principle.

If you've only got one shot in the clip you save it for a big target.

Or you shoot wide and make it a fist fight. That appears to be what they've done.

I think the hope is that people will get tired of heavy handed Republican rule. Particular when it does get them the outcomes that Trump promised.
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: Barrister on April 06, 2017, 01:57:26 PM
It used to long be a tradition in the Senate that you would vote against a nominee, but not filibuster the nomination.

Used to be a tradition when a President forwarded a USSC nominee, the Senate didn't ignore it for a year and pretend it never happened.  So there's a first time for everything, now isn't there.

Eddie Teach

Quote from: celedhring on April 06, 2017, 01:19:52 PM
I don't think rolling over and accept Gorsuch was an option after the Reps refused to even take up Garland. It was a matter of principle.

Is that principle "if you can do it, I can too"? I'm not sure anyone comes out of this looking good.
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Valmy

Well that is a pretty important principle in politics. If they can and you can't well you are going to lose.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."