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Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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Syt

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/15/us/politics/trump-intelligence-agencies-stephen-feinberg.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0

QuoteWhite House Plans to Have Trump Ally Review Intelligence Agencies

WASHINGTON — President Trump plans to assign a New York billionaire to lead a broad review of American intelligence agencies, according to administration officials, an effort that members of the intelligence community fear could curtail their independence and reduce the flow of information that contradicts the president's worldview.

The possible role for Stephen A. Feinberg, a co-founder of Cerberus Capital Management, has met fierce resistance among intelligence officials already on edge because of the criticism the intelligence community has received from Mr. Trump during the campaign and since he became president. On Wednesday, Mr. Trump blamed leaks from the intelligence community for the departure of Michael T. Flynn, his national security adviser, whose resignation he requested.

There has been no announcement of Mr. Feinberg's job, which would be based in the White House, but he recently told his company's shareholders that he is in discussions to join the Trump administration. He is a member of Mr. Trump's economic advisory council.

Mr. Feinberg, who has close ties to Stephen K. Bannon, Mr. Trump's chief strategist, and Jared Kushner, the president's son-in-law, declined to comment on his possible position. The White House, which is still working out the details of the intelligence review, also would not comment.

Bringing Mr. Feinberg into the administration to conduct the review is seen as a way of injecting a Trump loyalist into a world the White House views with suspicion. But top intelligence officials fear that Mr. Feinberg is being groomed for a high position in one of the intelligence agencies.

Mr. Bannon and Mr. Kushner, according to current and former intelligence officials and Republican lawmakers, had at one point considered Mr. Feinberg for either director of national intelligence or chief of the Central Intelligence Agency's clandestine service, a role that is normally reserved for career intelligence officers, not friends of the president. Mr. Feinberg's only experience with national security matters is his firm's stakes in a private security company and two gun makers.

On an array of issues — including the Iran nuclear deal, the utility of NATO, and how best to combat Islamist militancy — much of the information and analysis produced by American intelligence agencies contradicts the policy positions of the new administration. The divide is starkest when it comes to Russia and President Vladimir V. Putin, whom Mr. Trump has repeatedly praised while dismissing American intelligence assessments that Moscow sought to promote his own candidacy.

Against this backdrop, Mr. Trump has appointed Mike Pompeo, a former Republican congressman from Kansas, to run the C.I.A., and former Senator Dan Coats, an Indiana Republican, to be the director of national intelligence (he is still awaiting confirmation). Both were the preferred choices of the Republican congressional leadership and Vice President Mike Pence and had no close or longstanding ties to Mr. Trump. In fact, they each endorsed Senator Marco Rubio of Florida for president during the 2016 Republican primaries.

But the potential White House role for Mr. Feinberg follows intense speculation among intelligence professionals that Mr. Feinberg is in line for a powerful position within the intelligence community.

Reports that Mr. Feinberg was under consideration to run the clandestine service rocked the intelligence community in recent weeks, raising the prospect of direct White House control over America's spies at a time when Mr. Trump's ties to Mr. Putin are under investigation by the F.B.I. and congressional committees.

The last time an outsider with no intelligence experience took the job was in the early days of the Reagan administration, when Max Hugel, a businessman who had worked on Mr. Reagan's campaign, was named to run the spy service. His tenure at the C.I.A. was marked by turmoil and questions about the politicization of the agency. He was forced to resign after six months, amid accusations about his past business dealings. (He later won a libel case against the two brothers who made the accusations.)

Even the prospect that Mr. Feinberg may lead a review for the White House has raised concerns in the intelligence community.

Mr. Coats is especially angry at what he sees as a move by Mr. Bannon and Mr. Kushner to sideline him before he is even confirmed, according to current and former officials. He believes the review would impinge on a central part of his role as the director of national intelligence and fears that if Mr. Feinberg were working at the White House, he could quickly become a dominant voice on intelligence matters.

Michael V. Hayden, a retired general who ran the C.I.A. and the National Security Agency during President George W. Bush's administration, said it was hard to wrap his head around "the idea of a D.N.I. nominee in the confirmation process while others consider retooling the position."

"I think I'd be concerned, too," he said.

The challenge is less immediate for Mr. Pompeo. He does not see an urgent need for a review of the intelligence community, according to current and former American officials, but sees it as better than the appointment of Mr. Feinberg to a job with actual authority over daily intelligence operations.

Many intelligence officials question what purpose a White House intelligence review would serve other than to position Mr. Feinberg for a larger role in the future. Most significant changes to the intelligence community would require an act of Congress, a fact that would ultimately blunt whatever ideas or proposals Mr. Feinberg came up with. Even with a Republican majority in both houses, getting Congress to agree to major changes to intelligence agencies seems unlikely.

It is difficult to "object to someone putting fresh eyes on the organization of the intelligence community," Mr. Hayden said. "But, even though the D.N.I. staff has become far too large, I don't think any of us think a major restructuring of the community is in order."

Tensions between the intelligence community and the White House have already played out on several fronts. Before Mr. Flynn was forced out, one of his top aides, Robin Townley, was denied a security clearance by the C.I.A. But distrust of the intelligence community has been building for years in conservative political circles, where the C.I.A. during the Obama administration was seen as heavily politicized.

Representative Steve King, Republican of Iowa, said in a recent interview that some officials in the intelligence community were trustworthy but "not all."

"People there need to be rooted out," Mr. King said
.

Another Republican lawmaker said that the predominant view at the White House is also that the politicians in the intelligence agencies need to be cleaned out.

Through Cerberus, his private equity company, Mr. Feinberg has strong ties to the government contracting industry. Cerberus owns DynCorp International, which has had a wide array of large contracts providing security to the State Department and other agencies. DynCorp is now locked in a major legal dispute over the fate of a $10 billion State Department contract that it previously held to provide air support for counternarcotics operations overseas.

John F. Kelly, the new Homeland Security secretary, was paid $166,000 a year as a DynCorp adviser until he was named to the new administration.

Cerberus also owns Remington Outdoor, a major firearms manufacturer.

In 2008, Mr. Feinberg also considered investing in Blackwater, the security firm founded by Erik Prince, a former member of the Navy SEALs, before it was ultimately acquired by other investors.

New York magazine reported last year that Mr. Feinberg went to Blackwater's North Carolina compound in 2005 to take firearms training.
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Quote from: Syt on February 16, 2017, 12:18:32 AM
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/15/us/politics/trump-intelligence-agencies-stephen-feinberg.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0
White House Plans to Have Trump Ally Review Intelligence Agencies


Makes sense. Root out anyone who isn't strictly loyal and increase the chances of a useful terrorist attack at the same time. Bannon's aclever fascist.
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Valmy

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I guess so.

Or maybe people were so distracted by Trudeau's fabulous looks.

Though looking at the poll data he has been pretty consistently hovering around 55% so not much of a bump. The low is only 51% and the high is only 59%. So it doesn't look like Flynn impacted his numbers on that website at all.
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I remember he was at 45 right after the inauguration.  Economist article on quickest president to reach negative approval.

Valmy

Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 16, 2017, 12:05:34 PM
I remember he was at 45 right after the inauguration.  Economist article on quickest president to reach negative approval.

Rasmussen polling indicates strong support for both the President and his policies for the whole period since taking office. So obviously some inconsistencies with the polling.
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Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on February 16, 2017, 08:28:59 AM
Quote from: Syt on February 16, 2017, 12:18:32 AM
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/15/us/politics/trump-intelligence-agencies-stephen-feinberg.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0
White House Plans to Have Trump Ally Review Intelligence Agencies


Makes sense. Root out anyone who isn't strictly loyal and increase the chances of a useful terrorist attack at the same time. Bannon's aclever fascist.

I just don't know what to think about the intelligence agencies vs Trump storyline.

On the one hand it's troubling that intelligence agencies seem to be so opposed to a sitting, democratically elected President.  And there have been a lot of leaks that seem to be coming from those agencies - the leaks of all the calls from Trump to other world leaders for example.

But on the other hand... if they have firm evidence that Trump or those in his administration are actually compromised by the Russians... what else are they supposed to do?  To just roll over and give Trump and his minions access to everything would be to lead to the deaths of how many spies and operatives within Russia?
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Quote from: Valmy on February 16, 2017, 12:06:52 PM
Rasmussen polling indicates strong support for both the President and his policies for the whole period since taking office. So obviously some inconsistencies with the polling.

Razmussan polls those it considers "likely voters," so its results will differ from polls of a more general public.
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Trump is almost blending in with that golden drape. I don't understand what he's saying, but something about the circuit is in chaos. He's heard that something, he doesn't know, but he's heard that something like 80% are overturned, he's heard.
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HisMajestyBOB

Clearly Gallup is just fake news.
And the Rasmussen poll would be higher if you took out all the illegals. Sad!
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Seriously this guy.... He really does fit so many of the millennial stereotypes.
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