What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[Oexmelin]

No, I haven't.

You should try reading. It helps.

But then again, you have admitted, like a good little fascist, that books, and knowledge, and fact, do not concern you very much.

[LaCroix]

it just looks a little desperate you know?

[Oexmelin]

About what?

[Valmy]

dude, you started off bitching me out, and you're doing it again right here

For good reasons.

I think I'm absolutely right that if the situation was changed that it was a department head refusing to do its job and actually ordering its department to obstruct the executive ... but maybe the subject matter was something like an EO establishing gay marriage before obergefell ... then you'd be saying something different

I am not going to be responsible for what I may or might not say in whatever situation you dream up in your head you dishonest fuck. This is such a fucking typical way you derail a conversation.

[CountDeMoney]

Is it because it's winter, Lacroix?  Are you snowed in up there?  Is that why you've been posting more frenetically than a coked out spider monkey with ADHD?

[LaCroix]

Is it because it's winter, Lacroix?  Are you snowed in up there?  Is that why you've been posting more frenetically than a coked out spider monkey with ADHD?

nothing to do but drink and smoke cigarettes, and I've quit both

[Jacob]

Interesting but alarmist article - trial balloon for a coup? https://medium.com/@yonatanzunger/trial-balloon-for-a-coup-e024990891d5#.k1j361lw7

Like I said, alarmist, but interesting because it provides future developments to look out for as well.

[HisMajestyBOB]

Interesting but alarmist article - trial balloon for a coup? https://medium.com/@yonatanzunger/trial-balloon-for-a-coup-e024990891d5#.k1j361lw7

Like I said, alarmist, but interesting because it provides future developments to look out for as well.

I view the harping about "3-5 million illegal votes!" in a similar light - not as a coup, but laying the groundwork for enhanced voting restrictions, investigations into election results and candidates, and otherwise ensuring a GOP hold on power.

[Jacob]

Yeah definitely. We are definitely seeing the contours of an extra-democratic lock on power.

Here's a bit of a checklist for things to look out for: https://medium.com/@yonatanzunger/what-things-going-wrong-can-look-like-400f84a0cc3a#.mk95509rh

[Valmy]

I do not think it is necessary to look at some kind of Hitlerian schedule. I don't think even in a worst case scenario we are looking at aggressive imperialist wars and death camps. But plenty of good examples over there in current day Eastern Europe.

Of course most of what he says in that article are already happening. So there is that.

On the plus side, and why even if Trump is the next Putin/Orban wannabe it is probably going to be ok, is that his support is not exactly a huge majority and many of those who voted for him only did so because he was an outsider and Hillary was corrupt and all that. If he oversteps his support will dry up fast.

But what exactly Trump wants to accomplish is rather unclear to me, short of getting admiration from everybody.

[CountDeMoney]

But what exactly Trump wants to accomplish is rather unclear to me, short of getting admiration from everybody.

No, that's pretty much it.

When Jimmy Kimmel made the joke the other night--that it's almost as if Donald Trump would've preferred to have won the popular vote and lost the electoral vote--wasn't too far off the mark.  He wasn't going to win.  Bannon was going to be his right-hand man in becoming the Next Big Media Mogul. That was the plan.

Ooops.

[CountDeMoney]

The 5 Biggest Tech Companies Lost $32 Billion In Value Over Donald Trump's Muslim Ban
Lucinda Shen
Updated: 8:47 PM Eastern | Originally published: 7:59 PM Eastern
Fortune.com

Investors suspected Silicon Valley wouldn't have it easy under President Donald Trump's protectionist trade and immigration policies.

Trump deepened those fears Friday when he signed an executive order barring citizens of several Muslim-majority countries from entering the U.S. The move sent the market cap of the five biggest tech companies on the S&P 500 down by $32 billion Monday, as investors worried Trump's anti-immigration policies may cut into the workforces of tech companies.

Shares of Apple, Alphabet, Microsoft, Amazon, and Facebook (fb, -0.95%) together fell roughly 1% for a total market cap of $2.4 trillion on Monday. Alphabet alone shed $13.8 billion in market cap.

Tech companies quickly condemned Trump's executive order over the weekend. Google CEO Sundar Pichai called the order "painful" in a company memo that noted over 100 of his employees were affected by the order. Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg wrote on his social media site that, "we should also keep our doors open to refugees and those who need help." Microsoft on the other hand called the order "misguided."

But tech companies might have to brace for further headwinds from the White House: On Monday, Bloomberg obtained a draft of an executive order from the Trump administration that could discourage U.S.-based companies from hiring foreign workers by directly targeting the work-visa programs tech giants frequently use.

An exchange-traded fund tracking the technology sector, the Technology Select Sector SPDR fund fell nearly 1% in trading Monday. That was roughly in line with the broader stock market, with the S&P 500 falling 0.9%.

Shares of Apple have fallen 0.67%; Alphabet 2.6%; Amazon 1%; Facebook 1.4%; and Microsoft 1.3%.

[Jacob]

Why would Trump need majority support to remain in power? He got elected with less than that. If the GOP continues voter suppression efforts they can coast for a while on the "haha suck it Liberals" and "well, I'm okay personally so it ain't so bad" crowds... especially if something surprising happens at an opportune time to rally patriot fervour around the president (the US is under attack!) or discredit the opposition candidate (spurious allegations from the FBI, f. ex.).

[Valmy]

Why would Trump need majority support to remain in power? He got elected with less than that. If the GOP continues voter suppression efforts they can coast for a while on the "haha suck it Liberals" and "well, I'm okay personally so it ain't so bad" crowds... especially if something surprising happens at an opportune time to rally patriot fervour around the president (the US is under attack!) or discredit the opposition candidate (spurious allegations from the FBI, f. ex.).

Look despite what some of their more extreme elements might do most Republicans (and Independents) do like the Constitution and our system of government and they are not going to stand by and allow it to be unraveled. There are only so many votes one may suppress.

[Jacob]

I don't think Trump's motivation is popularity - I think it's money and power, and using one to obtain the other and vice versa.