What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[11B4V]

What begins?

america breaking bad, and it's going to be wild

My prediction is it will lose steam. Bluster.

[mongers]

Nikki Haley drops the what's what on the UN.

UNITED NATIONS — The American ambassador to the United Nations, Nikki R. Haley, issued a stark warning on Friday to allies and rivals abroad, saying in her first remarks at the headquarters of the world body that the Trump administration would hold to account those who do not back the United States.

"You're going to see a change in the way we do business," Ms. Haley said. "Our goal with the administration is to show value at the U.N., and the way we'll show value is to show our strength, show our voice, have the backs of our allies and make sure our allies have our back as well."

"For those who don't have our back," she added, "we're taking names; we will make points to respond to that accordingly."

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/27/world/americas/nikki-haley-united-nations.html

NIGGAS IS ON NOTICE

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What begins? The lowest point in the history US foreign policy. Just when you think they hit rock bottom, they start digging.

No, LaCroix posting quality hits a new low, he's admitting the strain it is lifting for the absent Marty and Legbiter.

[LaCroix]

My prediction is it will lose steam. Bluster.

maybe, but you know so many predictions have been made about trump

[LaCroix]

No, LaCroix posting quality hits a new low, he's admitting the strain it is lifting for the absent Marty and Legbiter.

don't worry. trump loves the UK -- it will have a magnificent place in the NWO. hell, he might divorce melania and marry into the royal line to further unite our nations

[Zoupa]

Dude, do you ever like, shut the fuck up for a few hours?

Because that'd be nice.

Cut down on the sugar or something. Wtf.

[Ed Anger]

Dude, do you ever like, shut the fuck up for a few hours?

Because that'd be nice.

Cut down on the sugar or something. Wtf.

Nothing else to do in South Dakota.

[11B4V]

Dude, do you ever like, shut the fuck up for a few hours?

Because that'd be nice.

Cut down on the sugar or something. Wtf.

Nothing else to do in South Dakota.

'Cept hate on Injuns.

[grumbler]

So, you were responding to your own strawman.  How completely unexpected.

if you'd like, change words around until they mean whatever it is you're arguing

They were correct in the order you quoted.  Surely, if you claim to be a lawyer (or an attorney), you can read words and decipher their meaning?

[grumbler]

What begins?

america breaking bad, and it's going to be wild

"America" isn't doing sweet fuckall other than pinheads shooting off their mouth.  All hat, no cattle.

Those who are really breaking bad aren't talking, they are doing.  Trump talks.

[grumbler]

Dude, do you ever like, shut the fuck up for a few hours?

Because that'd be nice.

Cut down on the sugar or something. Wtf.

Cut him some slack.  He's an "attorney."  He could be billing $200 an hour, but instead posts here because he is so dedicated to the truth.

[LaCroix]

Cut him some slack.  He's an "attorney."  He could be billing $200 an hour, but instead posts here because he is so dedicated to the truth.

I'm not in private practice right now

They were correct in the order you quoted.  Surely, if you claim to be a lawyer (or an attorney), you can read words and decipher their meaning?

I could, yea. when I'm firing off languish posts from the hip, I don't always stop to consider points

"America" isn't doing sweet fuckall other than pinheads shooting off their mouth.  All hat, no cattle.

Those who are really breaking bad aren't talking, they are doing.  Trump talks.

we'll have to see what happens. as mentioned somewhere here, it's probably a setup for negotiations. whether it works...

[Oexmelin]

Somebody edited the Wiki page for invertebrate to include Paul Ryan (alas, gone now)

http://nymag.com/selectall/2017/01/wikipedia-invertebrate-page-edited-to-include-paul-ryan.html

[grumbler]

we'll have to see what happens. as mentioned somewhere here, it's probably a setup for negotiations. whether it works...

If it is a "setup for negotiations," that makes it far, far more moronic.  Only a trump (or a Trumpeter) would think it a good idea to weaken one's own position to the maximum extent possible, by antagonizing the other party to negotiations and incentivizing them to screw over Team Trump as much as they can, before going into negotiations.

I think it becomes more clear why all of the Donald's businesses went bankrupt.  He believes in The Fart of the Deal.

[LaCroix]

If it is a "setup for negotiations," that makes it far, far more moronic.  Only a trump (or a Trumpeter) would think it a good idea to weaken one's own position to the maximum extent possible, by antagonizing the other party to negotiations and incentivizing them to screw over Team Trump as much as they can, before going into negotiations.

I think it becomes more clear why all of the Donald's businesses went bankrupt.  He believes in The Fart of the Deal.

if the setup thing is what's happening and it's not the opening act to an america breaks bad strategy (or something else), then I think the idea is to act assertive and strong so the other party will agree to more beneficial terms (for the US) during negotiations. now, it's a clumsy and awkward attempt, and private business negotiation tactics might not transfer that well (if at all) to foreign affairs, but the US is the superpower of the world. so, it's possible trump's brute forcing his way into negotiating better terms for the US in whatever deals might work out. of course there would be a substantial cost in relations, but again, the US is the superpower.

if the next president attempts to restore relations back to normal, the countries trump hurts/ruins relations with might have no real choice but to swallow pride and return to normalcy. because the US is that powerful, and no country is in a place to fill the overall vacuum created by trump's foreign policy. china, at best, can maybe get an agreement going with a few countries here and there and some of the asian nations, but that's no where close to the status the US enjoys. and china has its own serious problems both domestic and foreign that I wouldn't overlook. the US's overall position isn't threatened by whatever trump does. trump will hurt US foreign relations, but that's been hurt before. whatever happens, we're stuck on this wild ride, so fuck it

[Zanza]

the US might abandon and undermine its own system for four years, but meh, it happens. my post was in response to the notion the world would abandon the US during these four years and permanently find new powers to side with. "new powers" means china, because there's literally no other country that could even hope to replace the US. and even then, china would be an hilariously poor substitute for anything the US can offer

"Meh, it happens" - no, there is no precedent. The world will not abandon the US, but parts of the system the US built can be gone after four years of neglect or especially active US opposition. The US currently offers to champion the rules-based system that orders international affairs. It has gained trust. If it doesn't uphold that anymore, that system will be damaged and the US will no longer be seen as a benevolent hegemon, but as just another powerful country and will get treated like China or so. Others will not find a substitute for the US, that's not the concern. The concern is that the value of the current system will just no longer be realized and we will all be poorer (not just in strict economic terms but in all spheres of international cooperation) than before. When countries work together they can realize mutual benefits, but Trump is moving towards a world where countries work against each other. That's because of his zero sum view of foreign policy, which is just wrong and does not correspond with reality.