What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[dps]

It's actually been a fairly common Federal MO since states and municipalities started relying on Federal funding for a lot of their revenue.  The Feds put pressure on a state to change a low to what the Feds want or they'll cut off funds.  It's how we got a nationwide 55 MPH speed limit for about a decade, and how we got a nationwide age of 21 in order to legally buy alcohol.

There was a Supreme Court case on that -  South Dakota v. Dole - and while the condition was upheld it was done so on narrow grounds.  Two limitations are relevant here are that the sanction can't be too severe or punitive, and that it has to bear a reasonable relation to the funding.  What Trump is proposing would violate both limitation.  In particular, the one funding stream that could legitimately be targeted is law enforcement support - and that happens to be the one stream the EO exempts.  It's completely backwards.

I thought that the reasonable relation to the funding was brought up by O'Connor in her dissent--she thought that there was not a reasonable relation to the funding in the case--and not something address/required by the majority opinion.  And if the majority opinion did address that point, I'd have to say that I disagree with them and agree with O'Connor.  If you say that there's a reasonable relation there you might as well say that there doesn't need to be any, because (again, IMO) the relationship is at best tenuous.

FWIW, I agree that what Trump is trying to do goes beyond what the Court was prepared to accept in South Dakota vs Dole;  I just think that if the majority was willing to contort itself so much as to find a reasonable relationship in that case, they'll go along with pretty much any restrictions.

[Razgovory]

I like how viper thinks that "corrupt liberal moron" is some kind of objective fact.

[Malicious Intent]

Hope you guys don't like imported Mexican wares:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38764079

[Liep]

Hope you guys don't like imported Mexican wares:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38764079

Or any other wares:

"the tax initially would apply only to Mexico, but that the president supports imposing a 20 percent tax on all imports."

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/26/us/politics/mexico-wall-tax-trump.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=span-ab-top-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

[Valmy]

Hope you guys don't like imported Mexican wares:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38764079

No wonder Nieto is pissed.

So um...NAFTA? Congress has its work cut out for it.

[Liep]

So I'll readily admit I don't really understand finances, but a 20% import tax would perhaps hurt Mexico financially by lowering exports but ultimately it would be American taxpayers paying for the wall, no?

[CountDeMoney]

Hope you guys don't like imported Mexican wares:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38764079

It's a shame Mexico has the problems it does, because as a sovereign nation it would be hilarious for it to just say, "Yeah, we'll just wait for another President," recall its ambassador, and sit out a diplomatic poutfest for 4 years.

[CountDeMoney]

So I'll readily admit I don't really understand finances, but a 20% import tax would perhaps hurt Mexico financially by lowering exports but ultimately it would be American taxpayers paying for the wall, no?

This the art of the deal, man.  The opening salvo is always nuclear.  It's in the book, man. 

[CountDeMoney]

[Valmy]

Say what you want about Trump but at least he does not misgender our transtraitors.

[celedhring]

Wouldn't a 20% tax on Mexican imports fly on the face of WTO rules?

[CountDeMoney]

Say what you want about Trump but at least he does not misgender our transtraitors.

See, this is the problem with Twitter:  is the "terrible" attribution for "should never have been released from prison", or is it for "calling President Obama a weak leader"?  I think we know, but we don't know. 



Now pretend you're Chinese leadership, and see how much fun it is to interpret Trump Tweenglish.

[Valmy]

So I'll readily admit I don't really understand finances, but a 20% import tax would perhaps hurt Mexico financially by lowering exports but ultimately it would be American taxpayers paying for the wall, no?

Only those traitorous enough to buy something made with something made in Mexico in it. Granted those damn supply chains make it tough to know.

[CountDeMoney]

Only those traitorous enough to buy something made with something made in Mexico in it. Granted those damn supply chains make it tough to know.

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Simply put, any policy proposal which drives up costs of Corona, tequila, or margaritas is a big-time bad idea. Mucho Sad.

1:41 PM - 26 Jan 2017

[Liep]

Lindsey Graham Verified account
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Simply put, any policy proposal which drives up costs of Corona, tequila, or margaritas is a big-time bad idea. Mucho Sad.

1:41 PM - 26 Jan 2017