What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[LaCroix]

The days of gate keepers for the media are long passed.

true, look at cnn

[Valmy]

true, look at cnn

No thanks.

[Berkut]

Linking stopping pipeline construction to the overall environmental movement is another example of how the left takes reasonable positions to idiotic extremes, and leaves a gaping window for the populist right to get people like Donald Fucking Trump elected.

I do not really see the connection. We have had extremist leftist nutcases in this country for at least a hundred years. But now the future of our country depends on these people moderating themselves? Why? They are never going to.

There will always be extremists of course, but those extreme positions do not need to be adopted and supported by the mainstream.

[grumbler]

disagree with your assertion "American carnage" covers every location in america and isn't a general statement about the state of america as a whole. it could mean that, but it also could mean other interpretations. the speech referred to the many ways america as a whole has gone off track, so given the context it's more likely he meant the latter, not the former.

Good luck convincing people that Chicago isn't in "America!" 

[LaCroix]

I see that Trump is already laying down the groundwork for comprehensive voter suppression at federal level. 

all I see are investigations. you can't really suppress votes without the courts stepping in

[grumbler]

there was an apostrophe

"there" is correct, but the "a" should have read 'the" since i was referring to a specific apostrophe 9and would have been "an' if i was referring to an apostrophe in general).

[LaCroix]

Good luck convincing people that Chicago isn't in "America!" 

your response makes it seem like you didn't really read my post or consider it

[celedhring]

I see that Trump is already laying down the groundwork for comprehensive voter suppression at federal level. 

all I see are investigations. you can't really suppress votes without the courts stepping in

He's already saying that depending on the results, the procedures will be tightened. I don't really need a time travel machine to see that this will be used to make it more difficult for certain constituencies to vote.

[grumbler]

Good luck convincing people that Chicago isn't in "America!" 

your response makes it seem like you didn't really read my post or consider it

Your post just repeats your assertion that ending carnage in America doesn't imply ending it in Chicago.  Repeating an absurd assertion does not make it more credible.  Chicago is unambiguously located in America.

If you meant something else but didn't say it, that's on you, not on me.

[LaCroix]

so, could these acts shaving off US expenses amount to enough to prevent increasing the deficit if he, for example, lowers taxes on corporations?

[Berkut]

more that journalists shouldn't link oil pipelines with legitimate things that affect the environment. the crazies can, but if the journalists are crazy then those in charge should censor them.

The days of gate keepers for the media are long passed.

THe problem is not the media.

The problem is a PC culture that equates any kind of debate about particular issues with a vicious attack from the left, on the left, if you do not align with the most ridiculous of positions. If you do not support native Americans protesting constructing a pipeline that objectively does not materially affect them (and the enviro-Nazis oppose for reason that actually have nothing to do with the supposed concerns of NA anyway), you are some kind of fascist. And I am not exaggerating - that is exactly the word that will be used, and the imagery that IS used.

Once again, this is another example of how polarization happens. The ridiculous right does it as well - if you don't support a complete ban on any tax increases for any reason, you are targetted for removal to be replaced by someone who will support such a idiotic position.

I consider myself a staunch environmentalist. But the idea that to be an "environmentalist" I have to be opposed to building pipelines is simply ludicrous. But that is exactly where the left has driven the debate, and there is no discussion to be tolerated on the subject. You simply do not see it. Either it is not tolerated, or the issue is so obvious in its answer that there isn't any needed - but I don't think it is obvious at all.

There is perfectly reasonable arguments to be made that while we should be working very hard to reduce our reliance on oil, the means by which we transport the oil we do pump should be driven by the normal market forces and oversight for safety, efficiency and cost.

Do you see anyone on the left making such arguments? Could you imagine the Daily Show making such an argument, or even presenting it as a position that can be taken?

Of course not - we know how people making that argument are portrayed. We get images of noble Indians on starving horses facing down the hordes of the gestapo.

This is just an example of course, but this goes way beyond just the pipelines. The left has their topics of polarization just like the right, and intolerance for moderation just gives the right room to move even further right, because they can make a credible argument that only their guys will actually admit to problems, while the left plays identity politics. The only difference between the two sides is that one, overall, is right, and the other, overall is mostly wrong.

[LaCroix]

Your post just repeats your assertion that ending carnage in America doesn't imply ending it in Chicago.

"American carnage" isn't "carnage in America"

[LaCroix]

THe problem is not the media.

The problem is a PC culture

dude

or the problem is the radicals have successfully convinced a lot of moderates that the pipeline issue is an affront to the environment

[Valmy]

Dude. You don't have to tell me. I have devoted my entire career to transitioning us to a clean and renewable energy system. The fucking leftists are terrible allies just for that reason.

We need natural gas as an important transition fuel. But damn do they get idiotic about fracking. Did they ever go after Clinton for not being an insane nutcase about fracking or what? It is not like we are going to be fracking forever but we need to frack now. For awhile.

And the fucking birds and the wind turbines.

The perfect must always be the enemy of the good.

But if this kind of leftism somehow justifies other insanity then our country is doomed. Because those people are not changing their ways, they seek moral purity.

[Razgovory]

That's not very fair.  Is there a minimum required donation for principal's for a day?

It's not the first time, and he doesn't care.

I was pointing out that there was a apostrophe he was missing in his email to Grassley.  He didn't forget it, he just used it in the wrong place.

This is petty, even for you.