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What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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Berkut

...which just by chance I am sure, lines up exactly with Putin's goal of returning global political interaction to a 19th century model of "Great Powers" trying to align their spheres to best suit them.
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The Minsky Moment

Imagine Trump  was a conscious agent of the Russian government.  How would his actions differ from what he is actually doing?
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Berkut

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on January 23, 2017, 09:37:22 AM
Imagine Trump  was a conscious agent of the Russian government.  How would his actions differ from what he is actually doing?

They would be less obvious?
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mongers

Quote from: Berkut on January 23, 2017, 09:40:51 AM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on January 23, 2017, 09:37:22 AM
Imagine Trump  was a conscious agent of the Russian government.  How would his actions differ from what he is actually doing?

They would be less obvious?

It could be a double play; no agent of Russia would be this blatant, therefore Trump is just stupid rather than a traitor.  :ph34r:
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Tamas

Quote from: Berkut on January 23, 2017, 09:40:51 AM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on January 23, 2017, 09:37:22 AM
Imagine Trump  was a conscious agent of the Russian government.  How would his actions differ from what he is actually doing?

They would be less obvious?

:yes:

for one, he would be not so blatantly eager to suck Putin off. I mean, his seduction efforts are nauseating

DontSayBanana

Ugh.  Heard an NPR interview with Pat Buchanan the other day trying to explain away the "America first" doctrine as strict non-intervention.  That man is batshit insane.

That logic is downright dangerous- under the non-intervention policy Buchanan was talking about and that Trump seems to be implying, countries hostile to the US could build up their strength all they want, right up to the point where they could directly challenge the US, so long as they don't directly confront the US when they do it.

It's not so much "Make America Great" as "Circlejerk While Telling Ourselves America's Great Until it Isn't." :wacko:
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Quote from: Tamas on January 23, 2017, 06:36:08 AM
Orban today quoted Trump saying something about being ok of people/nations putting themselves first. He is very happy about this because "By this we [as in, the nation] have received permission, from the highest secular place, to put ourselves first. This is a great thing, a great freedom, a great gift".

:huh:

We can all be selfish pricks. This is awesome and amazing?
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mongers

Quote from: DontSayBanana on January 23, 2017, 10:10:18 AM
Ugh.  Heard an NPR interview with Pat Buchanan the other day trying to explain away the "America first" doctrine as strict non-intervention.  That man is batshit insane.

That logic is downright dangerous- under the non-intervention policy Buchanan was talking about and that Trump seems to be implying, countries hostile to the US could build up their strength all they want, right up to the point where they could directly challenge the US, so long as they don't directly confront the US when they do it.

It's not so much "Make America Great" as "Circlejerk While Telling Ourselves America's Great Until it Isn't." :wacko:

How do you cope with America's relative decline in the long term?
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garbon

Quote from: DontSayBanana on January 23, 2017, 10:10:18 AM
Ugh.  Heard an NPR interview with Pat Buchanan the other day trying to explain away the "America first" doctrine as strict non-intervention.  That man is batshit insane.

That logic is downright dangerous- under the non-intervention policy Buchanan was talking about and that Trump seems to be implying, countries hostile to the US could build up their strength all they want, right up to the point where they could directly challenge the US, so long as they don't directly confront the US when they do it.

It's not so much "Make America Great" as "Circlejerk While Telling Ourselves America's Great Until it Isn't." :wacko:

Does Pat Buchanan have some role now that we should care what he says?
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grumbler

Quote from: Berkut on January 23, 2017, 09:40:51 AM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on January 23, 2017, 09:37:22 AM
Imagine Trump  was a conscious agent of the Russian government.  How would his actions differ from what he is actually doing?

They would be less obvious?

:lol:
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LaCroix

Quote from: Berkut on January 23, 2017, 08:59:46 AM
...which just by chance I am sure, lines up exactly with Putin's goal of returning global political interaction to a 19th century model of "Great Powers" trying to align their spheres to best suit them.

it's been known for awhile that trump has a 19th century view of the world re: foreign policy

Razgovory

I think Kelly-Anne Conway is starting to look like a praying mantis.
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viper37

Quote from: Razgovory on January 23, 2017, 11:19:13 AM
I think Kelly-Anne Conway is starting to look like a praying mantis.
starting?
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celedhring

Quote from: LaCroix on January 23, 2017, 11:14:13 AM
Quote from: Berkut on January 23, 2017, 08:59:46 AM
...which just by chance I am sure, lines up exactly with Putin's goal of returning global political interaction to a 19th century model of "Great Powers" trying to align their spheres to best suit them.

it's been known for awhile that trump has a 19th century view of the world re: foreign policy

Which is funny since he rules the country that best used the XXth century view of foreign policy.

garbon

Quote from: celedhring on January 23, 2017, 12:09:56 PM
Quote from: LaCroix on January 23, 2017, 11:14:13 AM
Quote from: Berkut on January 23, 2017, 08:59:46 AM
...which just by chance I am sure, lines up exactly with Putin's goal of returning global political interaction to a 19th century model of "Great Powers" trying to align their spheres to best suit them.

it's been known for awhile that trump has a 19th century view of the world re: foreign policy

Which is funny since he rules the country that best used the XXth century view of foreign policy.

True, however, he also spent part of the 80s and throughout the 90s exclaiming to journalists about how terrible America now was.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.