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What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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The Minsky Moment

Quote from: Iormlund on August 07, 2023, 11:23:32 AMThe jury has to be unanimous to convict, right?

Yes.  And also to acquit.

QuoteCould the judge (legally) disqualify every potential juror who has ever been a registered voter or member of a party?

No, disqualifying bias cannot be inferred from those kinds of common external associations; it would also violate the principle of having the jury be generally representative of the community.
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viper37

I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

viper37

I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

Solmyr

Quote from: viper37 on August 07, 2023, 03:23:17 PMI'm really enjoying this. :lol:


You say that, but those will become GOP talking points in short order.

jimmy olsen

Twitter was subpeoned for their DMs, and was fined $350k for not compiling. $50k fine, doubling each day, payable on each day. So $50k + $100k + $200k.

However, that's burying the lede...
https://themessenger.com/politics/trump-flight-risk-federal-judge-ruling-indictments

QuoteOvershadowed by the news that Special Counsel Jack Smith secretly obtained access to Donald Trump's Twitter account, a three-judge panel of the D.C. Circuit relegated a blockbuster revelation to a footnote.

"The district court also found reason to believe that the former President would 'flee from prosecution,'" it began.

The appellate court's ruling does not reveal why U.S. District Court Beryl Howell, who oversaw the special counsel Jan. 6 investigation before handing over her title as the jurisdiction's chief judge in March, made such an explosive finding to justify imposing a non-disclosure order preventing Twitter from telling Trump that prosecutors demanded access to his account.

According to the ruling, prosecutors, for reasons currently unknown, ultimately shelved that argument, and Howell ultimately relied on other factors to support her ruling.

Meanwhile in Georgia
https://twitter.com/ZcohenCNN/status/1689336728656478208

Quote from: Zachary Cohen (@ZcohenCNN)Fulton County DA Fani Willis is expected to seek more than a dozen indictments when she presents her case into efforts by Trump & allies to overturn 2020 presidential election in GA before a grand jury next week, sources tell @SaraMurray, @JMOCNN & me.
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crazy canuck

It is routine for service providers to hand over info from accounts when ordered by the courts to do so.  Why is Twitter not complying?  :hmm:

Grey Fox

Quote from: crazy canuck on August 10, 2023, 09:57:32 AMIt is routine for service providers to hand over info from accounts when ordered by the courts to do so.  Why is Twitter not complying?  :hmm:

Because everyone who was doing the job got let go. It's like the media relation office & the poop emoji auto reply.
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jimmy olsen

Georgia prosecutors have messages showing Trump's team is behind voting system breach.

Seems like another bad week is coming Trump's way.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/13/politics/coffee-county-georgia-voting-system-breach-trump
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
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Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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Admiral Yi

Heard something interesting on NPR.  Fulton County case is state law, which means if Donald is found guilty he cannot be pardoned by the president.  Presidents can only pardon those who break federal law.  :)

DGuller

Is there anything stopping a state like Montana or Wyoming from passing a law that would give it jurisdiction to sentence any Democratic politician in the US to death for treason?  The GOP governor won't pardon Joe Biden, and we all know that the Supreme Court will vote 6-3 to uphold the death sentence.

grumbler

Quote from: DGuller on August 14, 2023, 05:40:54 PMIs there anything stopping a state like Montana or Wyoming from passing a law that would give it jurisdiction to sentence any Democratic politician in the US to death for treason?  The GOP governor won't pardon Joe Biden, and we all know that the Supreme Court will vote 6-3 to uphold the death sentence.

The state constitutions, for one thing.  The death cult couldn't muster the popular votes to enact such a change to the constitution, and the state courts wouldn't allow a referendum like that anyway.
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Admiral Yi

Quote from: DGuller on August 14, 2023, 05:40:54 PMIs there anything stopping a state like Montana or Wyoming from passing a law that would give it jurisdiction to sentence any Democratic politician in the US to death for treason?  The GOP governor won't pardon Joe Biden, and we all know that the Supreme Court will vote 6-3 to uphold the death sentence.

The Constitution doesn't allow bills of attainder, i.e. legislation directed at individuals.

DGuller

Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 14, 2023, 07:15:04 PM
Quote from: DGuller on August 14, 2023, 05:40:54 PMIs there anything stopping a state like Montana or Wyoming from passing a law that would give it jurisdiction to sentence any Democratic politician in the US to death for treason?  The GOP governor won't pardon Joe Biden, and we all know that the Supreme Court will vote 6-3 to uphold the death sentence.

The Constitution doesn't allow bills of attainder, i.e. legislation directed at individuals.
I'm not suggesting it would be limited to Joe Biden.  Treason can apply to a lot of individuals, nearly half the politicians in the DC are Democrats.

Sheilbh

Quote from: grumbler on August 14, 2023, 06:46:27 PMThe state constitutions, for one thing.  The death cult couldn't muster the popular votes to enact such a change to the constitution, and the state courts wouldn't allow a referendum like that anyway.
Yeah - I think in Trump's presidency, the deep state was underwhelming and the courts weren't that effective. But America's deep, decentralised democracy at state and local level was far more resilient, right down to the election itself.

That's why there's been an attempt to subvert it by getting full Trumpists into positions responsible for elections.
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