What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[Solmyr]

Yeah, Trump wouldn't know who Hercules was.

[Syt]

Regardless, what is not fake is Trump's marking Ivana's passing - which was also sent out in his org's standard fundraising email format. Classy.

[Admiral Yi]

Now I really want to donate.

[Valmy]

RIP Ivana. I will always remember Jan Hooks playing you on SNL.

[Admiral Yi]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3ljgvmaEPg

Nazi flag in Tampa.

[Admiral Yi]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxzaaRQsexY

Murdoch owned WSJ and NY Post call Trump a shit head.

This is seismic.

[Zoupa]

I think GOPtard voters have long moved past reading newspapers, and get their opinions from crackpot websites and shitty facebook takes.

So not really seismic.

[HVC]

Won't mean anything until fox turns. His followers don't seem like the type to read news papers.

[Sheilbh]

I don't know if it's seismic, but I still think the guy to watch is DeSantis.

[Admiral Yi]

Seismic because:

AFAIK WSJ and NY Post haven't bad mouthed Trump up to now.  WSJ has outsized readership in the donor class.
Owned by Murdoch.
Each defection from the cult decreases the validation of the echo chamber.  Nobody wants to be the one kook when every one else has moved on.

[Razgovory]

Fox News is inching away from Trump and really pushing De Santis.  I don't think there will be a dramatic break with Trump with Fox.  Murdoch knows that Trump will likely be indicted and they need a despot in the wings to cover.

[FunkMonk]

Yeah, I don't really get the whole "Trump is done now thing". The man could go to jail for literally murdering and cannibalizing his daughter on national television and the GOP base would still regard him as a cult hero who fought the good fight and only broke because he was betrayed by RINOs or whatever.

He may never be elected President again but his influence will live on in the electorate for a long time and that is perhaps the most pernicious thing about this terrible era of American politics. 

[OttoVonBismarck]

The reality is DeSantis probably beats Biden in a walk, while Biden can probably beat Trump again (it would be close.) People in the chatterati put way too much emphasis on Biden's poor polling--approval ratings don't have a 1:1 relationship with voting, and I think Trump's brand is so toxic with some of the suburban women who bailed on him in 2020 that as unhappy as they are with Biden, they'll still hold their nose and vote for him again before they'll give the keys back to Trump.

The GOP professional political class knows this, and it is unsurprising they are putting support behind DeSantis. The big risk for them is that DeSantis probably can't easily beat Trump in a 1:1 primary, and likely can't beat him at all in a multifield primary.

He may never be elected President again but his influence will live on in the electorate for a long time and that is perhaps the most pernicious thing about this terrible era of American politics. 

See I don't blame Trump for that. Trump in my mind tapped a current that was already there, a lot of people really don't agree with the great liberal project that was tacitly accepted by both parties post-Civil Rights era. They'd long been wanting to reassert that openly, and were already starting to in various venues before Trump came onto the scene.

[Jacob]

So the DoJ is investigating Trump now.

This could play out a number of different ways, I suppose.

[OttoVonBismarck]

The way it will likely play out is they do nothing substantive before the 2024 election.