What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[garbon]

It must be terryifing to have nearly half of your fellow citizens vote for and support a nihilistic death cult.

Based on what metric?

[viper37]

It must be terryifing to have nearly half of your fellow citizens vote for and support a nihilistic death cult.

Based on what metric?

GOP support is close to 50%.

[Eddie Teach]

As opposed to solid majorities for Orban.

[crazy canuck]

As opposed to solid majorities for Orban.

Right, that would be more than almost half.  And even more terrifying.

[grumbler]

It must be terryifing to have nearly half of your fellow citizens vote for and support a nihilistic death cult.

Based on what metric?

GOP support is close to 5025%.

FTFY  Gallop polls over time

[viper37]

That table gives 44% GOP as the most recent poll numbers.

[crazy canuck]

It must be terryifing to have nearly half of your fellow citizens vote for and support a nihilistic death cult.

Based on what metric?

GOP support is close to 5025%.

FTFY  Gallop polls over time

You need to add the totals of the GOP party supporters and the independents who say they support the GOP

[grumbler]

It must be terryifing to have nearly half of your fellow citizens vote for and support a nihilistic death cult.

Based on what metric?

GOP support is close to 5025%.

FTFY  Gallop polls over time

You need to add the totals of the GOP party supporters and the independents who say they support the GOP

Or, you could be more accurate and look at the number who respond to the question "In politics, as of today, do you consider yourself a Republican, a Democrat or an independent?" with "Republican" if you want to know how many Americans "vote for and support" the Republican Party.  Playing "guess the number of people who are lying" game is uninteresting.

[grumbler]

That table gives 44% GOP as the most recent poll numbers.

Actually, it is 28% as of April 19th.  Independent "leaners" don't support the party, nor do they always vote during an election the same way they "lean" months before the election. 

[DGuller]

To be fair, judging GOP support solely based on self-identification is like judging prevalence of racism based solely on admission of being a racist.  Sometimes in social sciences you need to estimate tendencies based on observed behaviors rather than what individuals want others or themselves to believe.

[grumbler]

To be fair, judging GOP support solely based on self-identification is like judging prevalence of racism based solely on admission of being a racist.  Sometimes in social sciences you need to estimate tendencies based on observed behaviors rather than what individuals want others or themselves to believe.

The problem with looking at observed behaviors is that we don't know what those are.  We can be pretty sure that the 28% of the people who identify as Republicans voted for at least some Republican candidates pretty consistently over time.  We don't know if the additional 5% or so of electorate that turned out and voted Republican in 2020 (who were self-identified independents) that were the same as the additional 2% or so of electorate that turned out and voted Republican in 2016, or were completely different.  The vast majority of the "leaners" in any given survey never vote in any given election.  By design, we don't know the names of the people who voted Republican in any given election, so all we have are those who self-identify as people who consider themselves Republicans.

Voter turnout in 2020 was the highest ever, but still was a bit less than 69%.  If, as it appears, a bit more than half of the people who did vote voted Democratic, it isn't statistically possible that almost half of all citizens turned out and voted Republican, as viper claims ("nearly half of your fellow citizens vote for and support a nihilistic death cult"). 

[Razgovory]

So the hearings of started.  Powerful stuff.  At least one congressmen asked Trump for a pardon.  Fox is not showing.

[Tamas]

https://twitter.com/ErinInTheMorn/status/1536824337218551809?s=20&t=g8AjEjQGH3Oi4dN8KUZwZg

This is one of the scariest videos I've seen.

I don't know what more to say.

Candidate Mark Burns (a Trump ally), running for SC-04, calls for the execution of lgbtq/trans people.

He uses "grooming" to justify.

He lays out exactly how it should be "legally" done.

Genocide.

I like this reply to it:

Both sides are the same. One side wants student loan reduction, environmental policy enacted, and socialized healthcare. The other side wants to arm teachers and murder LGBT people. Can't really tell the difference.

[The Larch]

And that guy is supposed to be a pastor?

[The Minsky Moment]

It's so over the top batshit that one barely notices he is advocating the restoration of HUAC.

The Trumpist mind is pretty transparent.  You can never go wrong assuming that whatever they are accusing others of is what they have been doing themselves.  It is no accident to see Trumpists shouting about treason and constitutional violations when the 1/6 commission is releasing evidence and findings about their treasonous insurrection.