What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[Valmy]

I am kind of surprised it took this long to do that.

[The Brain]

With travel bans, how much does legal immigration matter now?

[fromtia]

With travel bans, how much does legal immigration matter now?

It's a vote getter. Deflects from the lack of competence in handling the outbreak and energizes Republicans.

[The Minsky Moment]

With travel bans, how much does legal immigration matter now?

It does because the irony is that this order principally affects people already in the US who are seeking to adjust their status.  It exempts lots of people coming in temporarily to do critical agriculture and health care work, among others.

It's just troll bait for liberals, more distraction for the base from his total incompetence in a time of crisis.

[Tamas]

With travel bans, how much does legal immigration matter now?

It does because the irony is that this order principally affects people already in the US who are seeking to adjust their status.  It exempts lots of people coming in temporarily to do critical agriculture and health care work, among others.

It's just troll bait for liberals, more distraction for the base from his total incompetence in a time of crisis.

Also will make it easier to blame a more serious outbreak on illegal immigrants.

[HisMajestyBOB]

It's also a great way to arrest and deport various undesirables, destroy families, and further cement the GOP as the white nationalist authoritarian party.

For me and my family, this is a warning sign. A 21st century version of the Nuremberg laws. My wife's green card is good for another several years, so we are fine now, but it's time to start planning an escape route for when it becomes necessary.

[Maladict]

So would someone who has lived in the US for decades, but never got round to becoming a citizen, potentially be in trouble? Or would they have a permanent green card by now (if there is such a thing)? Asking for a friend.

[HisMajestyBOB]

They would have a green card that needs to be renewed every 10 years (after an initial 2 year period). At least that's what my wife has. I don't think there's a green card that never needs renewal.

[Syt]

So would someone who has lived in the US for decades, but never got round to becoming a citizen, potentially be in trouble? Or would they have a permanent green card by now (if there is such a thing)? Asking for a friend.

There's a number of offences that can get you deported:

https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/grounds-deportability-when-legal-us-residents-can-be-removed.html

Also, rules got tightened in 2020.

https://www.nbc-2.com/story/41563323/new-green-card-laws-2020

[Camerus]

It's also a great way to arrest and deport various undesirables, destroy families, and further cement the GOP as the white nationalist authoritarian party.

For me and my family, this is a warning sign. A 21st century version of the Nuremberg laws. My wife's green card is good for another several years, so we are fine now, but it's time to start planning an escape route for when it becomes necessary.

Does any of this affect green card holders' ability to apply for US citizenship?

[The Minsky Moment]

It's also a great way to arrest and deport various undesirables, destroy families, and further cement the GOP as the white nationalist authoritarian party.

For me and my family, this is a warning sign. A 21st century version of the Nuremberg laws. My wife's green card is good for another several years, so we are fine now, but it's time to start planning an escape route for when it becomes necessary.

Does any of this affect green card holders' ability to apply for US citizenship?

I don't think there is even a draft text yet.  I haven't seen a report of a statement mentioning citizenship proceedings.

[The Minsky Moment]

It seems that immigration field offices are already closed through May 30 so this really looks like purely for show.

[fromtia]

So would someone who has lived in the US for decades, but never got round to becoming a citizen, potentially be in trouble? Or would they have a permanent green card by now (if there is such a thing)? Asking for a friend.

I am such an individual. I'm a legal permanent resident, a status I have enjoyed for about 20 of the 23 years I have lived here. My green card is up for renewal in October, but it's the physical card that's renewed, not my status. However at least a year ago, probably a bit more the waiting time for replacing ones green card went from a couple of weeks to months. I am not 'in trouble" yet, but I am fully anticipating that Republicans will pursue an immigration policy in the future that will target people like me.

My dearest friend is a British Citizen who lives in NYC, he started a business in the US about 20 years ago, resided here with the associated visa for most of that time, never applied for a green card after his first marriage because of that visa, applied for it a few years ago after marrying his second wife (shes much nicer than the first one). That process is not concluded, so they are now going to be in limbo, property owners, building a house upstate, applying to become foster parents, regular people having regular lives but hes a foreigner so is very much about to become a victim of Trump.

It's this sort of cruelty that delights Republicans. It's a sure fire vote getter.

[mongers]

So would someone who has lived in the US for decades, but never got round to becoming a citizen, potentially be in trouble? Or would they have a permanent green card by now (if there is such a thing)? Asking for a friend.

I am such an individual. I'm a legal permanent resident, a status I have enjoyed for about 20 of the 23 years I have lived here. My green card is up for renewal in October, but it's the physical card that's renewed, not my status. However at least a year ago, probably a bit more the waiting time for replacing ones green card went from a couple of weeks to months. I am not 'in trouble" yet, but I am fully anticipating that Republicans will pursue an immigration policy in the future that will target people like me.

My dearest friend is a British Citizen who lives in NYC, he started a business in the US about 20 years ago, resided here with the associated visa for most of that time, never applied for a green card after his first marriage because of that visa, applied for it a few years ago after marrying his second wife (shes much nicer than the first one). That process is not concluded, so they are now going to be in limbo, property owners, building a house upstate, applying to become foster parents, regular people having regular lives but hes a foreigner so is very much about to become a victim of Trump.

It's this sort of cruelty that delights Republicans. It's a sure fire vote getter.

Well that a disgraceful way to possibly treat people and HMBob's wife situation must be a worry to. 

And as you say, it's a red rag to the bull that some republicans/Trumpsters have adopted, so now a distinct possibility. 

[fromtia]

Does any of this affect green card holders' ability to apply for US citizenship?

There hasn't been any moves along those lines yet, but I would assume they are coming. When Trump got elected a friend of mine from Hungary rather adroitly got his US citizenship right away and issued stark warnings that the future for immigrants of any stripe in the US was going to get progressively harder. I realize that he was right.