Misconceptions about Islam

[CountDeMoney]

The Biblical god is a psychopath.

Edgy!

How else do you explain the Book of Job?

Being a gambler is not the same as being a psychopath.  I'm sure Yi would agree.

[Martinus]

So, I have befriended on Facebook, in a multi-denominational/esoteric group, a devout Muslim from Pakistan and have been engaging him in a philosophical/theological/metaphysical debate. Has been quite invigorating so far. Will report here if this goes beyond a skin-deep level of engagement, though.

Edit: He is also kinda hot. But that's beyond the point. 

[CountDeMoney]

It is the will of Allah.

[HVC]

So, I have befriended on Facebook, in a multi-denominational/esoteric group, a devout Muslim from Pakistan and have been engaging him in a philosophical/theological/metaphysical debate. Has been quite invigorating so far. Will report here if this goes beyond a skin-deep level of engagement, though.

Edit: He is also kinda hot. But that's beyond the point. 

You two could never be, they think feet are dirty

[The Brain]

So, I have befriended on Facebook, in a multi-denominational/esoteric group, a devout Muslim from Pakistan and have been engaging him in a philosophical/theological/metaphysical debate. Has been quite invigorating so far. Will report here if this goes beyond a skin-deep level of engagement, though.

Edit: He is also kinda hot. But that's beyond the point. 

Ask him to beat you up after you've had sex. Traditions are important.

[Sheilbh]

So I have been reading a bit about the history of Islam, and it seems to me there is a lot of misconceptions thrown around about it.

For example, anti-Islamic folks often use the doctrine of taqiyya - deception or obfuscation - as a proof one cannot trust devout Muslims who may be deliberately hiding terrorists. Only that it seems to me that taqiyya is practiced by the Shiites (mainly the Ismailis) to avoid Sunni persecution - while most terrorists are Sunni (eg. Wahhabists). It's a bit like mixing up Catholics with Calvinists.

Yep. I've pointed that one a lot, not that it makes any difference to most people who mention 'taqiyya'. I think it's a fairly ancient idea that mainlygot brought back back by the persecution of Shia in Saddam's Iraq.

It's really the old mental reservation - but then that was used as a reason to beat up on Catholics too. We, by definition, were jesuitical and untrustworthy.

Also suicide attacks were, until very recently, the preserve of Sunni groups. Which seems odd because Shia theology is based on martyrs to a far greater degree. But in modern terms it was very rare - Ayatollah Khomeini authorised them in Iran-Iraq and Khamenei has declared the war in Iraq-Syria a second Karbala. Even so any attack like that is far more likely to be a Sunni attack.

[Martinus]

So, I have befriended on Facebook, in a multi-denominational/esoteric group, a devout Muslim from Pakistan and have been engaging him in a philosophical/theological/metaphysical debate. Has been quite invigorating so far. Will report here if this goes beyond a skin-deep level of engagement, though.

Edit: He is also kinda hot. But that's beyond the point. 

Ask him to beat you up after you've had sex. Traditions are important.

Why wait after?

[The Brain]

So, I have befriended on Facebook, in a multi-denominational/esoteric group, a devout Muslim from Pakistan and have been engaging him in a philosophical/theological/metaphysical debate. Has been quite invigorating so far. Will report here if this goes beyond a skin-deep level of engagement, though.

Edit: He is also kinda hot. But that's beyond the point. 

Ask him to beat you up after you've had sex. Traditions are important.

Why wait after?

Sure, go nuts.

[Siege]

So now Martinus is 'the poster of peace'. 

Marty is one of the smartest posters here and his ability to deep immerse in different ideologies to reach his own conclusions is the stuff of legend.

I certainly look forward to reading this thread.

[Admiral Yi]

 

[Martinus]

So now Martinus is 'the poster of peace'. 

Marty is one of the smartest posters here and his ability to deep immerse in different ideologies to reach his own conclusions is the stuff of legend.

I certainly look forward to reading this thread.

[The Brain]

So now Martinus is 'the poster of peace'. 

Marty is one of the smartest posters here and his ability to deep immerse in different ideologies to reach his own conclusions is the stuff of legend.

I certainly look forward to reading this thread.

So what did you think of it?

[Martinus]

Ok, so I gotta say I am humbled by how many things I didn't know.

For example, I have never heard about the Aga Khans and their Imamate before.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aga_Khan_IV

They seem like a template for what modern Islam should look like.

Edit: And it's super cool that he is (at least apocryphally) both a direct descendent of Muhammad and the Old Man of the Mountain. 

[The Brain]

Ok, so I gotta say I am humbled by how many things I didn't know.

For example, I have never heard about the Aga Khans and their Imamate before.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aga_Khan_IV

They seem like a template for what modern Islam should look like.

Edit: And it's super cool that he is (at least apocryphally) both a direct descendent of Muhammad and the Old Man of the Mountain. 

He's no Chaka.

[garbon]

He's so humbled that he makes a pronouncement on what Islam should look like.