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Started by Martinus, November 05, 2016, 01:23:36 AM

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Razgovory

Quote from: grumbler on November 05, 2016, 11:21:44 AM
I must admit that I don't understand

Yeah, you could stop right there.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Razgovory

Quote from: Hamilcar on November 05, 2016, 01:24:49 PM
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on November 05, 2016, 01:12:10 PM
Eh, there's definitely Christian lines of thought that lying is wrong. One of the most famous in all of philosophy is Kant (deeply religious dude) and his famed argument about whether or not you should lie to someone who asks you where your brother is located, so that he might murder him. God is definitely deceptive in many of the parables in the Bible, but God is also granted the theological authority to do things that for us are sins (like taking vengeance, killing etc.)

The Biblical god is a psychopath.

Edgy! :yawn:
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Eddie Teach

Quote from: Razgovory on November 05, 2016, 01:41:53 PM
Quote from: Hamilcar on November 05, 2016, 01:24:49 PM
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on November 05, 2016, 01:12:10 PM
Eh, there's definitely Christian lines of thought that lying is wrong. One of the most famous in all of philosophy is Kant (deeply religious dude) and his famed argument about whether or not you should lie to someone who asks you where your brother is located, so that he might murder him. God is definitely deceptive in many of the parables in the Bible, but God is also granted the theological authority to do things that for us are sins (like taking vengeance, killing etc.)

The Biblical god is a psychopath.

Edgy! :yawn:

How else do you explain the Book of Job?
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Barrister on November 05, 2016, 08:46:31 AM
This is not true.

While Al Qaeda, and then Daesh, are Sunni muslims, there's no shortage of Shi'ite terrorists, namely Iranian/Hezbollah.

The only Shi'ite terrorist act I can think of is the attack on the Buenos Aires Jewish center.

Syt

Quote from: Eddie Teach on November 05, 2016, 02:01:25 PM
How else do you explain the Book of Job?

Haven't read it, watched the movie, though. Loved it.

I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

Eddie Teach

The betting millionaires in that film don't kill anyone though.
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

Razgovory

Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 05, 2016, 02:04:29 PM
Quote from: Barrister on November 05, 2016, 08:46:31 AM
This is not true.

While Al Qaeda, and then Daesh, are Sunni muslims, there's no shortage of Shi'ite terrorists, namely Iranian/Hezbollah.

The only Shi'ite terrorist act I can think of is the attack on the Buenos Aires Jewish center.

They did blow up our marine barracks in Lebanon.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Barrister

Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 05, 2016, 02:04:29 PM
Quote from: Barrister on November 05, 2016, 08:46:31 AM
This is not true.

While Al Qaeda, and then Daesh, are Sunni muslims, there's no shortage of Shi'ite terrorists, namely Iranian/Hezbollah.

The only Shi'ite terrorist act I can think of is the attack on the Buenos Aires Jewish center.

Beirut barracks bombing?

Damn - Raz beat me to it.
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Barrister on November 05, 2016, 06:28:37 PM
Beirut barracks bombing?

Damn - Raz beat me to it.

Even if you include that their total count pales in comparison to the Sunni score.


mongers

Quote from: Razgovory on November 05, 2016, 05:57:20 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 05, 2016, 02:04:29 PM
Quote from: Barrister on November 05, 2016, 08:46:31 AM
This is not true.

While Al Qaeda, and then Daesh, are Sunni muslims, there's no shortage of Shi'ite terrorists, namely Iranian/Hezbollah.

The only Shi'ite terrorist act I can think of is the attack on the Buenos Aires Jewish center.

They did blow up our marine barracks in Lebanon.

And the French barracks at exactly the same time.
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

mongers

So now Martinus is 'the poster of peace'.  :cool:
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

grumbler

Quote from: Barrister on November 05, 2016, 06:28:37 PM
Beirut barracks bombing?

How is the Beirut barracks bombing an act of terrorism?  Was the USAAF's bombing of German Army barracks in WW2 also an act of terrorism?
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

Bayraktar!

grumbler

Quote from: mongers on November 05, 2016, 08:16:12 PM
And the French barracks at exactly the same time.

Soldiers are legitimate targets in a war.
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

Bayraktar!

mongers

Quote from: grumbler on November 05, 2016, 08:59:53 PM
Quote from: mongers on November 05, 2016, 08:16:12 PM
And the French barracks at exactly the same time.

Soldiers are legitimate targets in a war.

I didn't say there weren't, but was pointing out it was a double strike on the multi-national force; iirc 50-70 Frenchmen also died in addition to the 200+ Americans.
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

Razgovory

Quote from: grumbler on November 05, 2016, 08:59:53 PM

Soldiers are legitimate targets in a war.

Who was the US at war with?  Also, our embassy was blown up in Lebanon.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017