Where do you *feel* you stand in society?

[Gups]

Upper class, center. 

Nobody who was truly upper class would ever describe themselves as such.

[Eddie Teach]

Not everyone is as coy as the English.

[Gups]

Not everyone is as coy as the English.

It's not a matter of disposition, it's a matter of breeding.

[KRonn]

Middle class, right of center. Right fiscally, more left or center socially. I think I consider myself middle class, though now I'm retired so my "class" might fall a bit.

[derspiess]

Damn commies

[Syt]

I notice (though I'm not surprised) that most feel they're middle class, and looking at lifestyle this will certainly hold true. At the same time I'm guessing that depending on metrics (income, net worth or similar) a lot of us would fall in the top 10-15 % in their countries

[The Brain]

I notice (though I'm not surprised) that most feel they're middle class, and looking at lifestyle this will certainly hold true. At the same time I'm guessing that depending on metrics (income, net worth or similar) a lot of us would fall in the top 10-15 % in their countries

Which in most cases is middle class.

[garbon]

I notice (though I'm not surprised) that most feel they're middle class, and looking at lifestyle this will certainly hold true. At the same time I'm guessing that depending on metrics (income, net worth or similar) a lot of us would fall in the top 10-15 % in their countries

Which in most cases is middle class.

Yeah being upper class is a pretty niche space.

[Tamas]

First of all, if you have to work/run a business to make a living, you are not upper class.

[Berkut]

I notice (though I'm not surprised) that most feel they're middle class, and looking at lifestyle this will certainly hold true. At the same time I'm guessing that depending on metrics (income, net worth or similar) a lot of us would fall in the top 10-15 % in their countries

I suspect I am in the top-10% for household income, but I don't consider that upper class at all.

[Berkut]

First of all, if you have to work/run a business to make a living, you are not upper class.

Nah, I think that is the dividing line between wealthy and not wealthy, not middle and upper class.

For example, the CTO at M&T makes $550k/year or more. That is most definitely upper class, but not necessarily independently wealthy.

[Tamas]

First of all, if you have to work/run a business to make a living, you are not upper class.

Nah, I think that is the dividing line between wealthy and not wealthy, not middle and upper class.

For example, the CTO at M&T makes $550k/year or more. That is most definitely upper class, but not necessarily independently wealthy.

Somebody who has a job and a boss is a different category from those who are independently wealthy. Sure, he is a stinking rich white collar worker, but he is not upper class.

[Berkut]

First of all, if you have to work/run a business to make a living, you are not upper class.

Nah, I think that is the dividing line between wealthy and not wealthy, not middle and upper class.

For example, the CTO at M&T makes $550k/year or more. That is most definitely upper class, but not necessarily independently wealthy.

Somebody who has a job and a boss is a different category from those who are independently wealthy. Sure, he is a stinking rich white collar worker, but he is not upper class.

You are seriously arguing that someone with a half million plus yearly income is not "upper class"?

What about the President of M&T, probably pulls in several million a year? Not upper class since he actually works?

Steve Jobs was not upper class, because he worked for a living?

Bill Gates while he was running Microsoft and worth literally billions? Not upper class?

[Berkut]

I think you've been watching too much Downton Abbey.

[Grey Fox]

First of all, if you have to work/run a business to make a living, you are not upper class.

Nah, I think that is the dividing line between wealthy and not wealthy, not middle and upper class.

For example, the CTO at M&T makes $550k/year or more. That is most definitely upper class, but not necessarily independently wealthy.

Somebody who has a job and a boss is a different category from those who are independently wealthy. Sure, he is a stinking rich white collar worker, but he is not upper class.

Tamas, stop putting the Independently wealthy in the Upper class category. They are 1 higher.