SPLC idiocy: labels Maajid Nawaz & Ayaan Hirsi Ali Anti-muslim Extremists

[Hamilcar]

Do not make the error of taking Raz's quote mining as some kind of representation of her position as it stands now (and it has changed over time, as thoughtful people positions do...)

She's on the record multiple times saying Muslim schools should be shut down.  Very emphatically.
I suppose the one nuance is that the position developed in the context of the Dutch educational system, which has some weird hybrid public/parochial school setup.

ALL religious schools should be shut down. Starting with Muslim madrassas schools makes sense.

[The Minsky Moment]

ALL religious schools should be shut down. Starting with Muslim madrassas schools makes sense.

We have like freedom here and stuff so no that doesn't work.
We'll just have the stick with the old fashioned battle of ideas in the place of censorship, although apparently without much useful help from the SPLC.

[Martinus]

More insanity:

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/gymnastics/37832754

More votes for Trump and his like.

[Valmy]

I am not really sure how I feel about that. On one hand this is a private organization that can have any codes of conduct it wants but holy shit talk about a beat down. He even had to visit a few mosques as penance and he did not even do the mocking. Or maybe he visited the Mosques on its own. Hard to tell the article is pretty vague on the details, it even implies the ban also included other breaches of conduct.

Damn glad they didn't have that shit around or Monty Python would have been banned and forced to visit a few cathedrals to repent for mocking the Spanish Inquisition.

[garbon]

Hard to tell the article is pretty vague on the details, it even implies the ban also included other breaches of conduct.

I think article is pretty clear that it wasn't just about this one instance. Hard for M to read more than a headline though.

British Gymnastics said Smith's ban was a "cumulative penalty" because of a previous breach of its rules on conduct.

He was reprimanded in June for posting an image on social media of an American gymnast, who was 16 when the photograph was taken, accompanied by a comment British Gymnastics said was "unbefitting to a participant".

In April, he apologised for questioning the judging at the British Championships, where he was beaten to pommel gold by Max Whitlock.

[Martinus]

You can't expect me to read every article. It's hard enough to copy a link from Facebook and post it here with a pithy comment while on my mobile.

Edit: I guess I shouldn't always trust Maajid Nawaz's judgement. 

[Razgovory]

Maajid Nawaz is literally the person who coined the term "regressive left"

Oh, in that case he should probably be shot.

[Valmy]

Oh, in that case he should probably be shot.

Now who is an anti-muslim extremist?

[Berkut]

Well, you can't do a better job of proving that there is such a thing as the "regressive left" than to define a moderate Muslim calling for reform of Islam into a system that is compatible with Western ethical and social norms a "anti-Muslim extremist" and demand that they be muzzled!

[Berkut]

Maajid Nawaz is literally the person who coined the term "regressive left"

Oh, in that case he should probably be shot.

I love how Raz just becomes the caricature for exactly what he is claiming doesn't actually exist...and he doesn't even know it! He is 100% oblivious to the irony of his own statements.

[Razgovory]

Maajid Nawaz is literally the person who coined the term "regressive left"

Oh, in that case he should probably be shot.

I love how Raz just becomes the caricature for exactly what he is claiming doesn't actually exist...and he doesn't even know it! He is 100% oblivious to the irony of his own statements.

I have no fucking idea what you are on about.  I made a joke.  "Regressive left", is one of those annoying things that Marty was on about for the last two months.

[Hamilcar]

I reserve the right to mock Islam as much as any other delusion about the nature of the universe and the "divine" authorship of certain books.

[Razgovory]

I think Berkut lied about me.

[viper37]

We'll just have the stick with the old fashioned battle of ideas in the place of censorship, although apparently without much useful help from the SPLC.

With religion controlling education, there is no such place for old fashioned battle ideas.  No more than in 17th century Salem, at least.  No more than 1950's Quebec with an official department of censorship to protect our freedom.

might it be that we have gone too far on the other side and now favor a system where such draconian measures are coming back, discretly, slowly, but with no uncertainty?

[11B4V]

I reserve the right to mock Islamany religion as much as any other delusion about the nature of the universe and the "divine" authorship of certain books.

That's better.