SPLC idiocy: labels Maajid Nawaz & Ayaan Hirsi Ali Anti-muslim Extremists

[grumbler]

Yes they are. They said what he believed was anti-Muslim. Ergo his version of being a Muslim was anti-Islam, and thus opposed to what they consider true Islam. They are making a 100% theological judgement.

  Like logic has anything to do with clickbaiting.  Controversy = press.  Press = donations.

[CountDeMoney]

So he was not labelled anti-Muslim then? So the entire article was a lie? Interesting.

From time to time, you let your Texan show.

They said what he believed was anti-Muslim.

Link, plz.

[The Brain]

A Jew cannot be self-hating.

[Admiral Yi]

Yes they are. They said what he believed was anti-Muslim. Ergo his version of being a Muslim was anti-Islam, and thus opposed to what they consider true Islam. They are making a 100% theological judgement.

Blowing up a mosque or beating up Muslims are not theological judgements. 

[katmai]

Harbaugh eats boogers.

Not just his own!

[grumbler]

Yes they are. They said what he believed was anti-Muslim. Ergo his version of being a Muslim was anti-Islam, and thus opposed to what they consider true Islam. They are making a 100% theological judgement.

Blowing up a mosque or beating up Muslims are not theological judgements.

Wait.. what?  Since when is the SPLC "Blowing up a mosque or beating up Muslims?"

[Razgovory]

I guess it would be silly to actually look at the SPLC website.

[Eddie Teach]

I guess it would be silly to actually look at the SPLC website.

If they're busy making lists of anti-Islamic extremists you're probably right.

[grumbler]

If they're busy making lists of anti-Islamic extremists you're probably right.

And if the site had evidence relative to the debate, one of its supporters would presumably have introduced it here by now.  Given that we have been told it is silly to look at it, I am presuming that it lacks any serious evidence, and we have enough silly evidence in the thread all ready.  We don't need help there.

[Razgovory]

Oh, I checked, they have written why they put him on the list.  Trying to get Grumbler to integrate new information has always been a fool's errand, though.

[CountDeMoney]

grumbler's too sharp to let himself get ensnared by Google's metadata aggregation games, no sirree.  You're not going to catch him that way.

[grumbler]

grumbler's too sharp to let himself get ensnared by Google's metadata aggregation games, no sirree.  You're not going to catch him that way.

Turns out that Yi's link to the Atlantic article contained all of the "evidence" that the SPLC had to declare Nawaz an extremist: 
(1) he sent a list of Muslim organizations to some un-named "top British security official" in 2010
(2) he argued that "It is not only reasonable, but our duty to insist individuals remove the veil when they enter identity-sensitive environments such as banks, airports, courts and schools."
(3) he tweeted a "cartoon of Jesus and Muhammad" (obviously an anti_Christian extremist, too)
(4) he once visited a strip club.

That's it.  That's all you have to do to be an extremist in the SPLC's eyes. 

Of course, Raz would have used that evidence if he'd actually been interested in making an intellectual argument instead of deploying his favored ad hominem fallacy.

[Admiral Yi]

https://www.splcenter.org/20161025/field-guide-anti-muslim-extremists#nawaz

The SPLC site doesn't go much past what was in the buzzfeed article.

My verdict: SPLC really fucked up.  And their write up makes it sound personal.

[CountDeMoney]

My verdict: SPLC really fucked up.  And their write up makes it sound personal.

Reads to me like they're calling out a shameless self-promoter that uses his media access to grind his personal axe.   

I mean, hey, I get it: it's the cool thing to hate on dune coons these days, and supporting dune coons that hate other dune coons justifies and mainstreams dune coon hatred so everyone can feel better about it--but I didn't think you guys would be such fans of a marginal Brit Muslim version of Milo Yiannopoulos. 

[Admiral Yi]

Reads to me like they're calling out a shameless self-promoter that uses his media access to grind his personal axe.   

Then perhaps they should have included him in their Media Guide to People We Just Don't Like.