Who is the most revered person in your country's history?

Started by Syt, September 22, 2016, 03:01:34 AM

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Syt

As opposed to reviled. In 2003 a German TV show polled Germans with this result (ranked 1 - 10).

Konrad Adenauer
Martin Luther
Karl Marx
Sophie und Hans Scholl
Willy Brandt
Johann Sebastian Bach
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
Johannes Gutenberg
Otto von Bismarck
Albert Einstein

I'm honestly struggling to name "the one German" who's most revered. Luther, and Goethe would certainly make the shortlist, though.
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

Liep

Another tough question. Perhaps Harald Blåtand (Bluetooth), Hans Christian Andersen, Michael Laudrup, Niels Bohr, H.C. Ørsted, Tycho Brahe, Kirkegaard, or someone I'm forgetting right now.

I can't find any national polls on Google.
"Af alle latterlige Ting forekommer det mig at være det allerlatterligste at have travlt" - Kierkegaard

"JamenajmenømahrmDÆ!DÆ! Æhvnårvaæhvadlelæh! Hvor er det crazy, det her, mand!" - Uffe Elbæk

celedhring

Miguel de Cervantes.

When they did the Spanish version of that "Great Britons" program, King Juan Carlos won though  :bleeding:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Espa%C3%B1ol_de_la_Historia

Also, #22. Fuck this country.

Liep

Quote from: celedhring on September 22, 2016, 03:16:33 AM
Miguel de Cervantes.

When they did the Spanish version of that "Great Britons" program, King Juan Carlos won though  :bleeding:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Espa%C3%B1ol_de_la_Historia

Also, #22. Fuck this country.

Hey, Stalin was much much higher on the list when Russia did that vote, so there's that. :hug:
"Af alle latterlige Ting forekommer det mig at være det allerlatterligste at have travlt" - Kierkegaard

"JamenajmenømahrmDÆ!DÆ! Æhvnårvaæhvadlelæh! Hvor er det crazy, det her, mand!" - Uffe Elbæk

Martinus

The Pope
Józef Piłsudski
Adam Mickiewicz
Fryderyk Chopin
Copernicus

garbon

"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."

I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

celedhring

#6
As for Catalans... It's probably King Jaume I (conquered Valencia, Mallorca from the Arabs). He's comfortably the most popular Catalan historic figure, and relatively non-controversial. I guess separatists would pick Lluís Companys, though.

I'd personally vote Salvador Dalí, but I'm a huge fan.

The Larch

Quote from: celedhring on September 22, 2016, 03:16:33 AM
Miguel de Cervantes.

When they did the Spanish version of that "Great Britons" program, King Juan Carlos won though  :bleeding:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Espa%C3%B1ol_de_la_Historia

Also, #22. Fuck this country.

Queen Sofía at #4, (then Prince) Felipe at #7, (then Princess) Leti at #15. They must have polled "Hola!" readers.

celedhring

Quote from: The Larch on September 22, 2016, 03:37:28 AM
Quote from: celedhring on September 22, 2016, 03:16:33 AM
Miguel de Cervantes.

When they did the Spanish version of that "Great Britons" program, King Juan Carlos won though  :bleeding:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Espa%C3%B1ol_de_la_Historia

Also, #22. Fuck this country.

Queen Sofía at #4, (then Prince) Felipe at #7, (then Princess) Leti at #15. They must have polled "Hola!" readers.

ZP at #14...  :lol:

The Larch

Quote from: celedhring on September 22, 2016, 03:39:09 AM
Quote from: The Larch on September 22, 2016, 03:37:28 AM
Quote from: celedhring on September 22, 2016, 03:16:33 AM
Miguel de Cervantes.

When they did the Spanish version of that "Great Britons" program, King Juan Carlos won though  :bleeding:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Espa%C3%B1ol_de_la_Historia

Also, #22. Fuck this country.

Queen Sofía at #4, (then Prince) Felipe at #7, (then Princess) Leti at #15. They must have polled "Hola!" readers.

ZP at #14...  :lol:

Yeah, that was a headscratcher.  :lol:

Seeing the amount of sportsmen I'd add that besides "Hola!" readers they must have polled "Marca" readers as well.

Eddie Teach

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Duque de Bragança

#11
So my quick list

Viriato (this one is for Larch  :P)
D. Afonso Henriques (First king)
Henry the Navigator
D. João II
Vasco da Gama
Luis de Camões
Gil Vicente (father of Portuguese theatre during the Renaissance)
Marquis of Pombal
Eça de Queiroz (one of the most famous novelists)
Fernando Pessoa (the most famous novelist maybe)
Salazar (number one last time they made the poll thanks to the inclusion of an infamous orthodox marxist-leninist some people say just stalinist). I say Salazar he deserves a number 10, but not more, and not for all good reasons.

Funnily enough, Salazar won the parallel contest of the worst Portuguese ever. Same number 2, Cunhal the marxist-leninist for all ages.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Os_Piores_Portugueses

Others

Manoel de Oliveira (actor and movie director from the beginning of Portuguese talkies to well, just recently)
Arisistides de Sousa Mendes (Portuguese Just among the Nations)
Ámalia Rodrigues (most famous Fado singer buried in the local Pantheon)
Eusébio (famous football player buried in the Pantheon too)
Egas Moniz (Doctor first Portuguese Nobel Prize )
Afonso de Albuquerque   1462–1515 The conquistador, or military strategist and governor of India if you will, deserves to be way higher for Europa Universalis reasons, inter alii. ;)
Saramago, the novelist despiste his despicable politics. Marxist-leninist orthodox who tried to pass
Álvaro Cunhal (the Portuguese stalinist for you number 2 in that infamous contest)

Cristiano Ronaldo will join in time Eusébio I believe.

Lots more there

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Os_Grandes_Portugueses Inspired from the same BBC contest

The more recent, the less relevant, in general though Maria Helena Vieira da Silva and Maria João Pires could qualify.
As for Mourinho, needs to be coach for Portugal and win something (for Liep). :D
Maybe Fernando Santos could be added.

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Position   Name   Lived   
11   Salgueiro Maia   1944–1992   soldier, a key figure in the Carnation Revolution of 1974
12   Mário Soares   born 1924   former President of the Republic
13   Saint Anthony of Lisbon   1195–1231   saint
14   Amália Rodrigues   1920–1999   fado singer
15   Eusébio   1942-2014   football player
16   Francisco Sá Carneiro   1934–1980   politician
17   Jorge Nuno Pinto da Costa   born 1937   president of Futebol Clube do Porto
18   Nuno Álvares Pereira   1360–1431   strategist and general
19   João Ferreira Annes de Almeida   1628–1691   missionary
20   José Mourinho   born 1963   football team manager
21   Agostinho da Silva   1906–1994   philosopher
22   Eça de Queiroz   1845–1900   realist writer
23   Egas Moniz   1874–1955   doctor, first Portuguese to win a Nobel Prize
24   Denis of Portugal   1261–1325   6th king of Portugal
25   Fernando Nobre   born 1951   president of the AMI foundation
26   José Hermano Saraiva   1919-2012   historian, TV host
27   Cavaco Silva   born 1939   President of the Portuguese Republic, former Prime Minister
28   Humberto Delgado   1906–1965   military officer and politician
29   Zeca Afonso   1929–1987   singer-songwriter
30   Luís Figo   born 1972   football player
31   Marcelo Caetano   1906–1980   politician and professor
32   Pedro Nunes   1502–1578   scientist and mathematician
33   Father António Vieira   1608–1697   writer and preacher
34   Florbela Espanca   1894–1930   poet
35   Ferdinand Magellan   c. 1480–1521   navigator
36   Maria de Lurdes Pintasilgo   1930–2004   the only female prime-minister of Portugal
37   John I of Portugal   1357–1433   10th king of Portugal
38   Sophia de Mello Breyner   1919–2004   writer and poet
39   Antonia Ferreira   1811–1896   businesswoman
40   Father Américo   1887–1953   philanthroper
41   António Damásio   born 1944   scientist
42   Afonso de Albuquerque   1462–1515   military strategist and governor of India
43   Manuel I of Portugal   1469–1521   14th king of Portugal
44   José Saramago   1922–2010*   Nobel-laureate writer
45   Elizabeth of Portugal   1271–1336   The Saint Queen, queen consort of Portugal
46   Catarina Eufémia   1928–1954   popular heroine
47   Carlos Paredes   1925–2004   Portuguese guitarra player and composer
48   José Sócrates   born 1957   former Prime Minister of Portugal
49   Pedro Álvares Cabral   1467–1520   navigator who discovered Brazil
50   Ruy de Carvalho   born 1927   actor
51   Brites de Almeida, The Baker of Aljubarrota   14th century   popular heroine
52   Alberto João Jardim   born 1943   president of the Autonomous Region of Madeira
53   Almada Negreiros   1893–1970   modern painter and writer
54   Vasco Gonçalves   1921–2005   military officer and politician
55   Álvaro Siza Vieira   born 1933   architect
56   Belmiro de Azevedo   born 1938   businessman
57   Sousa Martins   1843–1897   doctor
58   Maria do Carmo Seabra   born 1955   former minister of Education
59   Father António Andrade   1580–1624   missionary explorer
60   Charles I of Portugal    1860–1908   32nd king of Portugal
61   Mariza   born 1973   fado singer
62   Eleanor of Portugal   1458–1525   queen consort of Portugal
63   Rosa Mota   born 1958   athlete
64   António Teixeira Rebelo   1748–1825   founder of the military school
65   Afonso III of Portugal   1210–1279   5th king of Portugal
66   Vítor Baía   born 1969   football goalkeeper
67   Bartolomeu Dias   c. 1450–1500   navigator
68   Otelo Saraiva de Carvalho   born 1936   military officer and politician
69   Cristiano Ronaldo   born 1985   football player
70   Herman José   born 1954   actor and comedian
71   Mary II of Portugal   1819–1853   queen of Portugal
72   Carlos Lopes   born 1947   athlete
73   Afonso Costa   1871–1937   politician
74   Fontes Pereira de Melo   1819–1887   politician
75   Gago Coutinho   1869–1959   geographer – first to cross the South Atlantic by plane
76   Ricardo de Araújo Pereira   born 1974   comedian
77   Manuel Sobrinho Simões   born 1947   doctor and scientist
78   Bocage   1765–1805   poet
79   Hélio Pestana   born 1985   actor, teenage idol
80   Jorge Sampaio   born 1939   former President of the Portuguese Republic
81   António Champalimaud   1918–2004   businessman
82   António Lobo Antunes   born 1942   writer
83   Gil Vicente   c. 1465–1536   playwright
84   Maria Helena Vieira da Silva   1908–1992   painter
85   Miguel Torga   1907–1995   writer
86   Natália Correia   1923–1993   poet and writer
87   Edgar Cardoso   1913–2000   engineer
88   Fernão Mendes Pinto   c. 1510–1583   explorer and writer
89   Sister Lúcia   1907–2005   nun
90   Alfredo da Silva   1871–1942   industrialist
91   Pedro Hispano   c. 1205–1277   Pope John XXI
92   Damião de Góis   1502–1574   humanist writer and humanist
93   John IV of Portugal   1604–1656   20th king of Portugal
94   Joaquim Agostinho   1943–1984   cyclist
95   Adelaide Cabete   1867–1935   doctor
96   Almeida Garrett   1799–1854   romanticist writer
97   António Gentil Martins   born 1930   doctor
98   António Variações   1944–1984   singer-songwriter
99   Paula Rego   born 1935   painter
100   Maria João Pires   born 1944   pianist


Josquius

Probably Churchill, by idiots who know little about him.
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The Larch

Viriato is a shared one, we will require 50% of the credit gained for him.  :P

Gups

Quote from: Syt on September 22, 2016, 03:01:34 AM
As opposed to reviled. In 2003 a German TV show polled Germans with this result (ranked 1 - 10).

Konrad Adenauer
Martin Luther
Karl Marx
Sophie und Hans Scholl
Willy Brandt
Johann Sebastian Bach
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
Johannes Gutenberg
Otto von Bismarck
Albert Einstein

I'm honestly struggling to name "the one German" who's most revered. Luther, and Goethe would certainly make the shortlist, though.

No Humbolt?