The Burkini Ban

[Hamilcar]

You are going to ride that weasel all the way down, aren't you? 

Maybe? 

[Razgovory]

I'm no longer clear who Grumbler is insulting.

[Jacob]

I'm no longer clear who Grumbler is insulting.

Seems like grumbler temporarily took your side! 

[Eddie Teach]

The grumbler Raz Alliance frightens me.

[derspiess]

[Martinus]

 

[Josephus]

There are religious Jewish sects in Quebec.  They were forced to flee in Ontaria, and later in South American due to persecution from authorities.  Kids were beaten, starved, educated in strict religious morals, seperated from their parents, all in the name of God.
Lots of people called the province racist for that.  Unfair persecution of religious people.

SNIP

Religion is private, that's it.  It has no place in a courtroom, it has no place in the army, it has no place in the city counsel, it has no place on the beach.  Worship who you want.  Believe what you want.  Attend the religious service you want when you want.  Fast or feast as you want.  But respect the rights of others to not share your beliefs.

Not sure there's a comparison between Lev Tahor which fled Canada because they were being investigated for, among other things, child abuse; and a woman wanting to wear a modest bathing suit

[dps]

WEASELS!!!  Cool!

his followers are.  I'm not concerned about Trump, I am about the people following and immitating him.

Not necessarily. His two yugest fans on this board are not religious at all.

I'm possibly the most religious regular or semi-regular poster here, and I detest the man.

[grumbler]

I'm no longer clear who Grumbler is insulting.

Seems like grumbler temporarily took your side! 

I take on the post, not the poster.  If someone says something silly about a Raz post, I won't hesitate to call it silly.

[grumbler]

I'm possibly the most religious regular or semi-regular poster here, and I detest the man.

None of my religious friends or family are fans of his.  I am sure that some of his fans are religious, but they aren't fans because they are religious.

Religious people supporting the non-religious candidates reminds me of Rep. Charlie Wilson.  He was always getting into trouble over his sexual escapades, and always got the religious vote in his district because he freely confessed his sins and promised to do better.  He used to crush genuinely religious opponents in the religious vote because his opponents didn't have anything to forgive, and those voters loved to forgive.

That was one crafty dude.

[Martinus]

Sometimes a picture is worth a thousand words. Here's a great cartoonist commentary to this controversy:

[Hamilcar]

Sometimes a picture is worth a thousand words. Here's a great cartoonist commentary to this controversy:

The idea that men are the ones imposing clothing choices like this on women is really a feminist lie. In most studies, women are far more pro-modesty than men (think intrasexual competition). In Iran for example, slightly more women support the veil than men. In the West, far more men are pro "free the nipple" than men.

[Martinus]

Sometimes a picture is worth a thousand words. Here's a great cartoonist commentary to this controversy:

The idea that men are the ones imposing clothing choices like this on women is really a feminist lie. In most studies, women are far more pro-modesty than men (think intrasexual competition). In Iran for example, slightly more women support the veil than men. In the West, far more men are pro "free the nipple" than men.

If this is the case, then the burkini ban makes even less sense.

[Solmyr]

Sometimes a picture is worth a thousand words. Here's a great cartoonist commentary to this controversy:

The idea that men are the ones imposing clothing choices like this on women is really a feminist lie. In most studies, women are far more pro-modesty than men (think intrasexual competition). In Iran for example, slightly more women support the veil than men. In the West, far more men are pro "free the nipple" than men.

You don't think this has something to do with how girls are brought up in our culture? "Be modest, be a good wife/mother, don't be a slut". In other words, behave in ways that will please men.

[Martinus]

Sometimes a picture is worth a thousand words. Here's a great cartoonist commentary to this controversy:

The idea that men are the ones imposing clothing choices like this on women is really a feminist lie. In most studies, women are far more pro-modesty than men (think intrasexual competition). In Iran for example, slightly more women support the veil than men. In the West, far more men are pro "free the nipple" than men.

You don't think this has something to do with how girls are brought up in our culture? "Be modest, be a good wife/mother, don't be a slut". In other words, behave in ways that will please men.

Not just in our culture. At least I'd hope our culture is better on this than many others.