The prison food and burkini ban dual thread

[Martinus]

Should prisons accomodate inmates who expect halal, kosher or vegetarian food?

[Valmy]

Within reason, sure. And hey the three examples you listed can all be satisfied with vegetarian food.

[Ed Anger]

Mart and Tim should be fed Nutraloaf. Yum.

[mongers]

Within reason, sure. And hey the three examples you listed can all be satisfied with vegetarian food.

Indeed.

Topic is probably a non-issue for all but the hang'un high brigade.

[celedhring]

Gotta agree with Valmy and mongers here.

[sbr]

 

[LaCroix]

voted always, but I took that to mean for legitimate diets only--no spaghetti 24/7

I think if the government seeks to lock away people, it should pay the appropriate costs. if it can't pay, reduce sentencing

[Berkut]

How do you handle the problem with people claiming dietary needs simply because they perceive that the special diets have better food?

What if they want to switch back and forth?

How do you tell someone you don't actually believe they are Jewish, for example?

Or do you just define a set of special diets, and let anyone partake of them as they wish, no matter the cost?

[Valmy]

How do you handle the problem with people claiming dietary needs simply because they perceive that the special diets have better food?

What if they want to switch back and forth?

How do you tell someone you don't actually believe they are Jewish, for example?

Or do you just define a set of special diets, and let anyone partake of them as they wish, no matter the cost?

Hence my 'within reason' qualifier. There is always that person claiming the flying spaghetti monster forbids him from eating apricots on Thursdays.

But providing a vegetarian alternative is perfectly reasonable.

[alfred russel]

Hence my 'within reason' qualifier. There is always that person claiming the flying spaghetti monster forbids him from eating apricots on Thursdays.

But providing a vegetarian alternative is perfectly reasonable.

What if the flying spaghetti monster forbids eating meat on Friday or during Lent?

[Valmy]

What if the flying spaghetti monster forbids eating meat on Friday or during Lent?

Well you have a vegetarian alternative. So the pasta gods will smile upon you.

[Berkut]

How do you handle the problem with people claiming dietary needs simply because they perceive that the special diets have better food?

What if they want to switch back and forth?

How do you tell someone you don't actually believe they are Jewish, for example?

Or do you just define a set of special diets, and let anyone partake of them as they wish, no matter the cost?

Hence my 'within reason' qualifier. There is always that person claiming the flying spaghetti monster forbids him from eating apricots on Thursdays.

But providing a vegetarian alternative is perfectly reasonable.

The problem is that prisoners, by and large, have no incentive to "be reasonable", so you need a system to handle the fact that they are going to try to exploit your "reasonable" accommodations, and then sue you when you reasonably tell them that you don't care what the flying spaghetti monster thinks about baked beans.

[alfred russel]

I try to consume 100g of protein a day. I also avoid simple sugars and foods that are high in fat or otherwise greasy. I don't (often) eat red meat. I avoid white bread and pasta. I incorporate fresh fruits and vegetables into my daily diet.

Can I follow this diet? What if I get a doctor's note saying it is important for my health?

[Berkut]

I try to consume 100g of protein a day. I also avoid simple sugars and foods that are high in fat or otherwise greasy. I don't (often) eat red meat. I avoid white bread and pasta. I incorporate fresh fruits and vegetables into my daily diet.

Can I follow this diet? What if I get a doctor's note saying it is important for my health?

Indeed - in fact, I think 100% of prisoners in America could argue that their doctors would recommend a healthier diet than what they are going to get in prison.

Is that a special, and reasonable, accommodation? Please don't feed me crappy food?

[garbon]

How do you handle the problem with people claiming dietary needs simply because they perceive that the special diets have better food?

What if they want to switch back and forth?

How do you tell someone you don't actually believe they are Jewish, for example?

Or do you just define a set of special diets, and let anyone partake of them as they wish, no matter the cost?

Hence my 'within reason' qualifier. There is always that person claiming the flying spaghetti monster forbids him from eating apricots on Thursdays.

But providing a vegetarian alternative is perfectly reasonable.

The problem is that prisoners, by and large, have no incentive to "be reasonable", so you need a system to handle the fact that they are going to try to exploit your "reasonable" accommodations, and then sue you when you reasonably tell them that you don't care what the flying spaghetti monster thinks about baked beans.

Is that an overwhelming problem in the prison system today?